Jazz Decades NBA Fantasy Draft

[prodigy]

The last one is surprising, Chad had a big advantage on the polls but both judges sided with SalmonHobo, but both had it very close, certainly closer than the public poll would indicate.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Lol @ Chad.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

I'm curious. Who were the judges?

 

[prodigy]

I'm curious. Who were the judges?

sirkicky & calijazz

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Also, shouldn't we now re-seed and have vslice get the luxury of playing the worst remaining seed, Cyrone?

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

I'd love to hear the two judges' insights into their selections. I'm very curious.

 

[sirkickyass]

Time to reveal the results..

Ben10 vs. Cyrone Torbin
Public Poll: Ben10 24-22
Judge #1: Cyrone Torbin
Judge #2: Cyrone Torbin

Cyrone Torbin wins 2-1

NUMBERICA vs. prodigy
Public Poll: NUMBERICA 25-23
Judge #1: prodigy
Judge #2: prodigy

prodigy wins 2-1

vslice vs. PKM
Public Poll: vslice 43-3
Judge #1: vslice
Judge #2: vslice

vslice wins 3-0

SalmonHobo vs. Chad
Public Poll: Chad 34-10
Judge #1: SalmonHobo
Judge #2: SalmonHobo

SalmonHobo wins 2-1

Since Cali and I voted in total unison I'm digging all the advantages that we got from anonymity here.

 

[sirkickyass]

For the two matchups for which a detailed explanation was requested.

For the SalmonHobo v. Chad:

Hardest one to vote on in my mind. For me it come down to a question of Point guard play (for which Chad doesn't really have any back-up options) vs. Bench play (where Salmon Hobo's team is frankly kind of terrible since he located all his Jazz players on the bench).

I ultimately ended up voting for Salmon's team for a few of reasons:

1) 90's Shaq is significantly better than 70's Wilt. This would be especially true in a head to head matchup where Wilt was trying to keep his "no foul out" streak going.
2) I think in many ways Kobe would functionally negate a lot of Stockton's value if they had to play together. I just can't imagine Kobe submitting himself to that kind of offensive control.
3) Salmon's team has some pretty unreal ball-movement potential that I think would exploit some serious defensive weaknesses in Chad's frontcourt. Salmon's team isn't exactly running a defensive powerhouse in the frontcourt either but I think his team would leverage the offensive advantage better. And yes, I can't believe I'm citing ball movement as an advantage for Salmon when Chad is employing Stockton.

And come on, I have to vote for Fes at least once.

For Ben10 vs. Cyrone Torbin:

I spent way too much time analyzing each team (and some of these guys I needed to look up more in depth to be fair about it, like Walt Bellamy).

I suspect that Cyrone Torbin has the better team here, in particular his front court of Robinson and Moses is dominant. I'm sort of pissed about two things on his team: I give almost no credit for the Spencer Haywood pick given that he played a total of 34 games for the Jazz. That seems like a bit of a stretch to me to include him within the rules of the draft. Second, Jerry Sloan was a very good player, but that's an unconscionable selection for one of the very best players of the entire 1970s.

That leaves me in a quandry but I still have to go with Cyrone Torbin's team. And even that I question because I just happen to be one of the people who is most on the Moses Malone bandwagon. After voting this way I need to take a shower.

I'll let cali speak for himself. And I swear to god we didn't collaborate at all even though we were completely in line with one another.

 

[NUMBERICA]

And the results on the series with the most total public votes?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

And the results on the series with the most total public votes?

Even though I voted against you, I thought that was pretty bogus. It seems like if you get that much of the popular opinion you should win.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

For the two matchups for which a detailed explanation was requested.

For the SalmonHobo v. Chad:



For Ben10 vs. Cyrone Torbin:




I'll let cali speak for himself. And I swear to god we didn't collaborate at all even though we were completely in line with one another.

Haha, I picked Sloan mainly due to the fact I didn't feel like looking anybody else up and he was a good defender. Also, I hate drafting the 70's because I feel like a good amount of them have over inflated stats due to lack of competition and are hard to judge compared to 80's,90's,etc. due to the inclusion of the 3pt line.

 

[calijazz]

Alright, I did something a bit different to decide who gets my vote. I created dream teams on whatifsports.com using the player's best season from the time period in which they were chosen. I can go into further details about the process if people are interested. The team with the higher seed in prodigy's bracket got the home court advantage. I simulated the match-ups and got these results.

Ben10 vs. Cyrone Torbin (bold indicates home team)

Game 1: CT 102, Ben10 99
Game 2: CT 100, Ben10 95
Game 3: CT 124, Ben10 84
Game 4: CT 125, Ben10 93

Cyrone Torbin wins series 4-0, therefore got my vote.

NUMBERICA vs prodigy

Game 1: Prodigy 111, NB 102
Game 2: Prodigy 110, NB 107
Game 3: Prodigy 104, NB 95
Game 4: Prodigy 107, NB 95

Prodigy wins 4-0. Prodigy gets my vote.

vslice vs. PKM

Game 1: PKM 102, vslice 90
Game 2: vslice 106, PKM 86
Game 3: vslice 107, PKM 100
Game 4: PKM 90, vslice 81
Game 5: vslice 103, PKM 84
Game 6: vslice 111, PKM 102

vslice wins in 6. vslice gets my vote.

SalmonHobo vs Chad

Game 1: Chad 123, Salmon 116
Game 2: Salmon 120, Chad 118
Game 3: Chad 106, Salmon 95
Game 4: Salmon 125, Chad 118 (OT)
Game 5: Salmon 114, Chad 107
Game 6: Salmon 112, Chad 94

Salmon wins in 6. My vote goes to Salmon.