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Jazz hire Celtics Assistant GM Austin Ainge as new President of Basketball Operations

NUMBERICA said:
The first thing the Jazz need to do if they’re really thinking about willfully putting themselves on the treadmill is to get their pick back from OKC. As it stands, if they just miss the play-in while the Timberwolves or Cavaliers have a year from Hell and hit the lottery, the Jazz would be ineligible to receive that swap.

I would vastly prefer - to a degree that might be impossible to convey - they trade out of their quality vets, organically bottom out, and start rebuilding in earnest without skipping steps from there. I can live with that.

Coughing up a lottery pick to the Thunder in a good draft so they could get out of a contract they should never have offered in the first place five years prior would be unforgivable. That’s what will happen if they put their foot on the gas.
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yep i can't see how the only sensible path isn't just dumping a couple of the competent older players, actually allowing the young guys to play properly and try hard and develop and finish with prob 6th worse record, get next years pick and go from there. If we trade for some mediocre name player and pull the plug on the couple of years of deliberate or otherwise tanking it'll be malpractice. And i'd much rather watch young players having a go than the rubbish this year.
 
If we give up a #10 pick next year, I don't really care. We have sooooo many of those type of guys. It certainly wouldn't be the end of the damn world. The BEST place to be that you can absolutely control is a "treadmill team" with plenty of assets. We are not "giving away a top 8 pick." If the pick is top 8 we keep it.

Chances are, if we play to win without adding more vets and playing our young guys with Kessler and Markkanen is that we keep our pick anyway. If not, something went really, really right and I probably enjoyed the season.

I'm not at all interested in eating another crap sandwich for a 5 pick.
 
Late to the party, but FWIW, Celtics fans on reddit are sad that AA left the team. They said he eventually became Brad Stevens’s right hand man in the front office
 
Giving up a lottery pick in next year's draft would be epically stupid, especially when we are starting from such a low point and we are not anywhere close to being competitive. Usually we talk about "new owner syndrome", where new owner comes in and forces a bunch of stupid win now moves that ruin the chances of the franchise for the next decade. I don't want to overreact to some media statements that might be just... PR/GM speak, but I really really hope we are not about to witnes the GM version of this.

I just don't want to believe that the new Ainge is this dense and delusional. Playing the media is perfectly fine with me and until I see something different happen I would just assume that this is what he was doing.
 
Nobody goes in to a brand new job and decides that they want to make everything worse. They also mentioned several times that this everything will be a group decision and so I'm guessing/hoping that they will come to a reasonable decision here.
 
A couple of other interesting things from the press conference:

- Ryan said it was his idea and not Danny's to bring in Austin. He phrased it as a result of FOMO with Austin's name being mentioned for other jobs.
- According to Ryan this was a position that they have needed to fill for a while which, if true, makes me wonder:
  • What is Danny doing? What his role and why is it not the same thing that Austin will be doing?
  • Why don't they promote JZ to this? Does he not want it?
- They mentioned how Danny had been posting up Cody in practice which visual makes Cody seem even more pathetic.
 
Last post for a minute, I promise.

There was a little bit of a sense that maybe Ryan wasn't super happy with how things are going. Maybe there is a little bit of impatience there and he decides to bring in a new guy that will help build the team the way he wants it. Like maybe Ryan had been outnumbered by JZ/DA in conversations about the team and he didn't want to come off as the too involved owner and so he goes and gets a guy who evens out the votes in the room so he can get what he wants.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
A couple of other interesting things from the press conference:

- Ryan said it was his idea and not Danny's to bring in Austin. He phrased it as a result of FOMO with Austin's name being mentioned for other jobs.
- According to Ryan this was a position that they have needed to fill for a while which, if true, makes me wonder:
  • What is Danny doing? What his role and why is it not the same thing that Austin will be doing?
  • Why don't they promote JZ to this? Does he not want it?
- They mentioned how Danny had been posting up Cody in practice which visual makes Cody seem even more pathetic.
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I heard Danny has been dominating the matchup and is contemplating a comeback.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
A couple of other interesting things from the press conference:

- Ryan said it was his idea and not Danny's to bring in Austin. He phrased it as a result of FOMO with Austin's name being mentioned for other jobs.
- According to Ryan this was a position that they have needed to fill for a while which, if true, makes me wonder:
  • What is Danny doing? What his role and why is it not the same thing that Austin will be doing?
  • Why don't they promote JZ to this? Does he not want it?
- They mentioned how Danny had been posting up Cody in practice which visual makes Cody seem even more pathetic.
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We don’t want Zanik in that position and neither does Ryan.
 
RandyForRubio said:
Who cares? Like the majority of people with good jobs, he got started because of his connections. He’s kept his job/gotten promoted because he’s done well.

I know people want to compare it to their corporate jobs, but it’s not the same. Everybody in the sports world is getting hired based on connections. Get over it.
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I agree. I don’t get why folks are critical of Austin here. The fact that he is Danny's son doesn't matter. He's got the credentials for the job. The only thing that matters is how well he does for the Jazz. And this question he got about tanking. What else was he supposed to say as the president of an NBA team? It was the right answer. I didn’t think he meant he's going to pivot and start hunting big game now. He's not going to rush the rebuild.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Why?

Does Zanik feel the same way?
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It doesn’t really matter if Zanik feels that way. I’m sure he would love that position.

Ryan has gone over his head twice now.

Are you asking why we shouldn’t want him promoted? His track record is shaky at best.
 
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