Jazz only hope is to go full blown Euro

[royzzz]

If this is how Jazz should be constructing the team then let's trade a combination of Favors, Burks, Johnson, Hood for Porzingis and, if he's really that good, Ben Simmons.

 

[Engorged On Unborn Gore]

Don't forget: Going full Euro means new underwear.

 

[enchilada_style]

The Jazz can become the preferred destination for Euro players that are looking to make the jump to the NBA. Not a bad pipeline to create.

 

[Douchebag K]

If this is how Jazz should be constructing the team then let's trade a combination of Favors, Burks, Johnson, Hood for Porzingis and, if he's really that good, Ben Simmons.

Yes Ben Simmons will be that good.
Also I'm at a Bastille day French exhibition/festival Vive la Rudy !!!!

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

5. Less sense of entitlement. Brought up through ranks and many have sat on bench as younger players. U.S. players have generally been stars at every level.

This is really the most valid point in going after Euros/other foreign players. It's overly simplistic and lazy to make this a white/black thing. There are lots of white players who would much prefer playing somewhere other than Utah, for various reasons. On the other hand, there are no doubt African American players who end up liking the area based on different personalities/preferences in life.

It's every bit as likely to draft a foreign player who grew up a Laker fan, or has some other reason for wanting to go elsewhere in free agency. Then what, we decide to only draft local college players? Those guys might prefer another team as well.

This isn't about profiling people based on where they live or the color of their skin. It's about finding high character individuals and then building a relationship with them that you can at least get a good read on what they plan/want to do(although there are no guarantees, regardless). Even then, you always take BPA in the draft, and work out the details later.

Drafting someone like Donovan Mitchell is about as good as you can hope for, regardless of race or origin. Down to earth kid who seems genuinely grateful for his opportunities in life, as opposed to an entitled player who thinks he deserves an automatic max contract after a mediocre year, just because he's ****ing special.

At the end of the day, people are individuals, and talent and potential can't be overlooked due to race/origin. If you happen to draft someone who doesn't want to stick around, you just have to get a better feel for that, and ship them out while they have trade value.

 

[framer]

This is really the most valid point in going after Euros/other foreign players. It's overly simplistic and lazy to make this a white/black thing. There are lots of white players who would much prefer playing somewhere other than Utah, for various reasons. On the other hand, there are no doubt African American players who end up liking the area based on different personalities/preferences in life.

It's every bit as likely to draft a foreign player who grew up a Laker fan, or has some other reason for wanting to go elsewhere in free agency. Then what, we decide to only draft local college players? Those guys might prefer another team as well.

This isn't about profiling people based on where they live or the color of their skin. It's about finding high character individuals and then building a relationship with them that you can at least get a good read on what they plan/want to do(although there are no guarantees, regardless). Even then, you always take BPA in the draft, and work out the details later.

Drafting someone like Donovan Mitchell is about as good as you can hope for, regardless of race or origin. Down to earth kid who seems genuinely grateful for his opportunities in life, as opposed to an entitled player who thinks he deserves an automatic max contract after a mediocre year, just because he's ****ing special.

At the end of the day, people are individuals, and talent and potential can't be overlooked due to race/origin. If you happen to draft someone who doesn't want to stick around, you just have to get a better feel for that, and ship them out while they have trade value.

This is why that "culture" thing is pretty important. San Antonio isn't great shakes, but people want to play there. Atlanta is a pretty good "party town" and it is always a NBA wasteland. When you spend decades tanking it kills your culture, which is why I would prefer the danger of a treadmill over "blowing it up" every few years.

 

[Hedda Gambler]

1. View of U.S./Utah
2. Respect for coaches and owners
3. Team-oriented approach
4. Basic fundamentals vs. highlight skills
5. Less sense of entitlement. Brought up through ranks and many have sat on bench as younger players. U.S. players have generally been stars at every level.

As Americans you forget what perhaps is the most important difference in that we don't play for schools, but clubs. A kid can start playing for a club at a very early age and if he is good enough, he can play for the senior team much earlier than Americans can. In soccer the best talents often get their first minutes for the senior team at age 15 - 18.