Jazz Play The Clippers in about 2 Hours: A Gamethread

[spycam1]

Favors' passing is looking good too.

With Favors/Gobert we could have a defensive WALL with good court vision... they both just need to keep expanding their offensive repertoires for the pairing to really work. But I think they'll get there.

Not sure how Kanter fits into the equation. A lot of it will probably depend on how much he's offered this summer. If it's around 10M, then I think the best scenario might be to trade him for assets or a good vet (not sure who) before its time to extend Rudy. Or maybe we'll get lucky and somehow manage to keep all three bigs going forward.

 

[nateboz]

I must admit I'm loving that Gobert is getting DESERVED minutes. I hated watching Kanter and Favors under Corbin.

 

[Siro]

Favors' passing is looking good too.

With Favors/Gobert we could have a defensive WALL with good court vision... they both just need to keep expanding their offensive repertoires for the pairing to really work. But I think they'll get there.

Not sure how Kanter fits into the equation. A lot of it will probably depend on how much he's offered this summer. If it's around 10M, then I think the best scenario might be to trade him for assets or a good vet (not sure who) before its time to extend Rudy. Or maybe we'll get lucky and somehow manage to keep all three bigs.

At 10m a year, he's worth keeping as a third big.

 

[Fabtrey]

Yeah, it is starting to appear to me that Burke is improving. . .

trey's been much better this year compared to last year. i just hope he becomes a decent shooter in this league someday.

 

[Fabtrey]

gobert behind the back pass makes me come and cringe at the same time

 

[framer]

He is getting a little more crafty in the paint, that's about the best compliment I can give him.

If he starts to limit himself to 8-10 shots per game, and takes them when they are open, I think he will be a better player in the short term while he develops his driving game. Practicing against Gobert will be a huge boon in developing develop his "craftiness." His vision is improving when he lifts his head up.

 

[spycam1]

At 10m a year, he's worth keeping as a third big.

But with Burks already signed at 10M a year (and looking better in a 6th man role) we could potentially be spending 20+ million on two bench players. Seems pretty extravagant. But maybe it's manageable under the new, expanding salary cap.

 

[Jamezz]

Dramatic much?

No drama, it actually felt really good. Now back to reading good analytical posts and enjoying the game.

 

[Fishsticks]

If I had a gripe about exum it would be his steal rate. He gets like none.

 

[framer]

It was nice to see that stretch with Gobert and Favors. The clips announcers seemed excited to see that lineup as well.

 

[BYE]

I expected him to struggle. I warned people around here that if they expected him to be a monster from the very first season they didn't have realistic expectations. I just didn't expect him to struggle THIS WAY. I expected him having trouble finishing around the rim because of lack of experience and strength, not because he'd be scared ****less to even drive to the rim. I expected him to make a ton of TO because of probing the defenses and making some stupid passes that he can learn from. In other words, I expected him to struggle while trying, not to struggle without even trying to push himself.

One thing that I am curious to see is how he eventually becomes more aggressive. You have guys that are naturally aggressive or at least not afraid to take semi rushed shots, see Kobe and Michael Carter Williams 2/20. Exum doesn't try to push the envelope at all, since he is by nature a perfectionist. He doesn't want to be that guy to screw things up. I hope he starts taking more risks around the basket and driving the ball. With his ability to see the court, he could be special if he could use his speed to create.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If I had a gripe about exum it would be his steal rate. He gets like none.

I think our defensive philosophy is to not gamble on the perimeter.

 

[framer]

Burke actually outscored Paul that half. . .

 

[mellow]

Tony Jones @Tjonessltrib
Yesterday, I was told the Jazz would be trying to play Gobert and Favors together more...You are seeing that tonight

Dan Woike @DanWoikeSports
Gordon Hayward is a sneaky good arm flailer


Kurt Helin @basketballtalk
If you enjoy watching choppy basketball without flow, the first half of Jazz/Clippers is for you.

David Locke @Lockedonsports
Jazz have won 4 of 5 but this first half might be the best sign of how improved this team is. Clippers 48 Jazz 44.


Ben Bolch @latbbolch
Fan yells, "Utah! There's not a man among you!"

 

[Jazz4ever]

If I had a gripe about exum it would be his steal rate. He gets like none.

He has to be looking to drive, especially with Burks out. If he passes up the opportunity, it means Joe Ingles or Rodney Hood has to do his job and it doesn't end well.

 

[framer]

GObert moved up another spot on the countdown list.

 

[Hekate]

Favors' passing is looking good too.

With Favors/Gobert we could have a defensive WALL with good court vision... they both just need to keep expanding their offensive repertoires for the pairing to really work. But I think they'll get there.

Not sure how Kanter fits into the equation. A lot of it will probably depend on how much he's offered this summer. If it's around 10M, then I think the best scenario might be to trade him for assets or a good vet (not sure who) before its time to extend Rudy. Or maybe we'll get lucky and somehow manage to keep all three bigs going forward.

To make Favors/Gobert work, we need 3 shooters around them and I don't think we can have a good spacing with both Hay and Exum on the floor with them.

Can trade Kanter if he isn't going to pick defensively and doesn't get consistent from 3. He has been better than start of the season with both but still needs to improve.

 

[Siro]

One thing that I am curious to see is how he eventually becomes more aggressive. You have guys that are naturally aggressive or at least not afraid to take semi rushed shots, see Kobe and Michael Carter Williams 2/20. Exum doesn't try to push the envelope at all, since he is by nature a perfectionist. He doesn't want to be that guy to screw things up. I hope he starts taking more risks around the basket and driving the ball. With his ability to see the court, he could be special if he could use his speed to create.

This is the point many of us keep making. Shooting, handling, cutting, passing, etc can all improve substantially if a player works hard enough. But can you fix heart? I don't think I've ever seen a player who plays as cowardly as Exum. Can that be fixed? It's an honest question. What's the history of timid players who learn to be aggressive? If anything, the opposite is usually true for rookies. They're TOO aggressive, and they force things too often. Experience usually calms you down.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Jordan playing very good against us tonight.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Box Jordan out!