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Jazz Playoff Watch

I ask myself these questions.

Will the Jazz be contenders in the next couple years with the current roster and a year or two more experience? I say, no, because we still need a facilitator and/or become a perimeter threat.

Will we be able to get our needs through trades/FA without giving up too much? I say no.

Therefore, I'd rather have the pick and hopefully add one more piece to the build project/future contender.
 
It will be interesting to see if the Jazz will extend Hayward/Burks/Favors and Kanter down the road, and how much it will cost to do that. They may get into a position where they can't afford to keep the players they want to.

That said, I'd be happy to get two lottery picks in this draft. I feel like we could get two really strong players, and the lottery class this year is promising, I just hope we can afford (and G. Miller will pay) to keep players down the road...
 
do you guys really want to add TWO rookies to this already-young-as-hell team? especially if it comes at the cost of creating a culture where it's ok to lose? the jazz should absolutely make every effort to get to the playoffs, even if the end result is an embarrassing sweep. look at the playoff history of a team like OKC and you'll see that a team has to get a decent playoff résumé before they can advance deep in the playoffs.

put another way, you have to lose before you can win... and if we want guys like derrick favors, gordon hayward and alec burks to be leading the jazz to the playoffs in 2013 and beyond, it behooves us for them to get there and feel the difference in intensity. you can't just tank your way to a couple of late lottery picks and then all the sudden compete for a title. at some point you have to start showing your young core what it takes to be good, even if that process is slow and includes a couple of first-round beatings.
 
Hey....YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME! HELLO???

....unless, of course, you throw the ball all over the place, take poor percentage shots, don't play defense, miss wide open shots....and spend most of your practice time dunking the ball!
 
theNBAnerd said:
do you guys really want to add TWO rookies to this already-young-as-hell team? especially if it comes at the cost of creating a culture where it's ok to lose? the jazz should absolutely make every effort to get to the playoffs, even if the end result is an embarrassing sweep. .
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Ah, there is atleast one more person on this board who feels this way.

Looks like a lot of folks here want the Jazz to have 6-8 guys on rookie contracts, competing with each other for mins, while the Jazz struggle to finish games and lose. And then, when their rookie contracts are up, we promptly lose atleast 3-4 players.

Jazz have their task cut out on the trade and FA signings front if they want to contend in 2-3 years
 
theNBAnerd said:
do you guys really want to add TWO rookies to this already-young-as-hell team? especially if it comes at the cost of creating a culture where it's ok to lose? the jazz should absolutely make every effort to get to the playoffs, even if the end result is an embarrassing sweep. look at the playoff history of a team like OKC and you'll see that a team has to get a decent playoff résumé before they can advance deep in the playoffs.

put another way, you have to lose before you can win... and if we want guys like derrick favors, gordon hayward and alec burks to be leading the jazz to the playoffs in 2013 and beyond, it behooves us for them to get there and feel the difference in intensity. you can't just tank your way to a couple of late lottery picks and then all the sudden compete for a title. at some point you have to start showing your young core what it takes to be good, even if that process is slow and includes a couple of first-round beatings.
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I think it entirely depends on the scenario. I would take the NBA playoffs over, say, a low lotto pick that probably amounts to a good role player, but not anything substantially better than what we can get through free agency or what we already have. Sure, there are exceptions to the rule, but if we're drafting at 14 come this summer, and we don't own the GS pick, I'll be disappointed and would certainly want a playoff berth, even if it amounts to a sweep, over what we might end up with.

Of course, if the Jazz could realistically move up and get a top-five pick, then I think I might say tank and play for the pick. That's not going to happen now. They've won too many games to really position themselves for a chance at a really good lotto pick. So, I agree with you - win and move into the last playoff spot, if not a bit better. Yes, we probably would be swept by the Thunder, yes, it could get ugly, but I'd take playoff basketball over watching Utah get stuck with the 14th pick that probably won't amount to much of anything in the long run. I guess they could technically trade that pick for a missing piece, but I still think making the playoffs trumps that.

Unfortunately, with how inconsistent the Jazz are, I have a feeling we'll finish 9th in the west, 1 game out of the 8th spot because that seems to be our lot in life.
 
How in the condensed schedule did Houston get such a huge break? They played last night but now don't play again til Friday? Lame.
 
Beantown said:
How in the condensed schedule did Houston get such a huge break? They played last night but now don't play again til Friday? Lame.
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Well, Utah had a break early in the season with a ton of home games and more time in between. Guess that's more valuable later in the season when players are fatigued. On the other hand, I think it benefitted the Jazz by giving all the young guys more time to acclimate to each other.
 
vj_74 said:
Ah, there is atleast one more person on this board who feels this way.

Looks like a lot of folks here want the Jazz to have 6-8 guys on rookie contracts, competing with each other for mins, while the Jazz struggle to finish games and lose. And then, when their rookie contracts are up, we promptly lose atleast 3-4 players.

Jazz have their task cut out on the trade and FA signings front if they want to contend in 2-3 years
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Two rookies?
Most 2nd-rounders don't make a team and we are NOT getting the GS pick this summer. Warriors may win 1-2 more games - tops. And there are a number of teams within 1-2 wins of them right now. I wouldn't be surprised to see GS slip all the way to #4.

Yes, I'd take another good rookie from this draft, no question. Drafting #14 this year is like getting a #7 pick in the last couple of drafts. I'm not sure what KOC is going to do. Most likely some of the trades he hinted at were contingent on having first round picks in this draft. Most likely nothing will be done, the Memo TPE will expire and then Utah will just say goodbye to Jefferson and Harris without getting anything in return. So yes, a draft pick would at least give us the POSSIBILITY of adding an eventual starter or solid rotation player.
 
GlassEater said:
Well, Utah had a break early in the season with a ton of home games and more time in between. Guess that's more valuable later in the season when players are fatigued. On the other hand, I think it benefitted the Jazz by giving all the young guys more time to acclimate to each other.
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But I don't remember them ever getting 2 games in 5 days.
 
So if I assume everything in here is fact then the Jazz's pick equals automatic up grade to OKC status. Second is that Corbin is complete crap and without him the Jazz would near be undefeated (save Knicks cause of Linsanity and Sacto cause of Jimmermania) and anything positive was just blind/dumb luck and everything negative is completely his fault intentionally.
 
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