Jazz trade John collins

[fishonjazz]

At least we can sell hope and talk ourselves into them, as we don't have enough data points to say yay nor nay definitively.

I think it'll be harder to sell hope for someone for whom we have four years of data points, pointing mostly downward.

You can always sell hope for a 22 year old with great measurables who hasn't played a ton so far.

I mean if there was no hope then there wouldn't be any jazzfanz posters wanting to acquire him

 

[KqWIN]

The only real problem I have with taking a flier on Kuminga is that he likely cut into the development of other players. If we don't to attempt to develop young players with some warts, we might as well give up on half our roster lol. We have a lot of young players who are not very good yet. We're in the business of turning lemons into lemonade. But I don't think we have room for JK with Ace in the building.

I like Grimes as a better target because he has proven to be able to scale down into a smaller role and be a contributor.

 

[Hedda Gambler]

Now do the Lauri trade. The only logical next step.

Nah, with only Lauri and Walker as proven rotation pieces, we will be a bottom four team if we don`t make any further moves. I think it would be better just to play him and trade him if he has a good start to the season. If not, we can just keep him as we have no need of clearing his salary.

 

[slc]

Trading Collins now seems to open up more options for Jazz and that seems good

 

[Schrödinger's Gerbil]

You can always sell hope for a 22 year old with great measurables who hasn't played a ton so far.

I mean if there was no hope then there wouldn't be any jazzfanz posters wanting to acquire him

You may well be right.

And, he may be the best we can get for our cap space money.

If so, God help us. We aren't winning anything, anytime soon.

 

[rjfan]

Seems to be what we are doing already.

Yeah

But at rookie scale contract deals - only guys being kept to a 4th year being dudes that either have no market, that might not even get a second contract, or too good to be traded, at least for peanuts - not near max rookie extension

 

[rjfan]

A lot satisfied with this trade. It actually points towards playing our youth, and, dare I joke about It, big game hunting

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I just dont really get taking a "flier" on Kuminga (is it really a flier when he's going to cost north of 20 per year?). He cant shoot and he doesnt get stocks. If he could shoot it decently, or was a high level stocks player, I'd have hope for his future, but is neither so I just dont.

 

[HadAnEffectHere]

Overall, the Jazz spent $59m a year on Sexton, Collins, and Clarkson over the last three years in an attempt to trade them for picks and netted 0 picks.

 

[Schrödinger's Gerbil]

Like Sexton, I think Collin's is underrated by NBA observers and has, for reasons I don't quite understand, acquired a not-so-good rep. I am actually glad for him that he can now play meaningful games and contribute (hopefully) to winning.

Given that we've spent the last 2 years or so trying to unload Collin's, and that we're on a 3-year quest to lose, I'm not sure I grasp the rationale why we acquired him in the first place. Seems a bit antithetical to what the FO has been trying to do.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Like Sexton, I think Collin's is underrated by NBA observers and has, for reasons I don't quite understand, acquired a not-so-good rep. I am actually glad for him that he can now play meaningful games and contribute (hopefully) to winning.

Given that we've spent the last 2 years or so trying to unload Collin's, and that we're on a 3-year quest to lose, I'm not sure I grasp the rationale why we acquired him in the first place. Seems a bit antithetical to what the FO has been trying to do.

Because he's at a salary number teams dont want to pay to guys who arent clear cut top 75 players.

 

[HadAnEffectHere]

Like Sexton, I think Collin's is underrated by NBA observers and has, for reasons I don't quite understand, acquired a not-so-good rep. I am actually glad for him that he can now play meaningful games and contribute (hopefully) to winning.

Given that we've spent the last 2 years or so trying to unload Collin's, and that we're on a 3-year quest to lose, I'm not sure I grasp the rationale why we acquired him in the first place. Seems a bit antithetical to what the FO has been trying to do.

The league hates players that don't defend after Boston and OKC won the title. Everyone views the NBA as a weak link league now where your defense is only as good as your worst defender.

(This is also extremely bad news for Keyonte and Sensabaugh and maybe bad for Filipowski as well, lol)