John Collins 5-Out Offense Thread

[Elizah Huge]

It has been awesome to watch Hardy implement Collins as the Center in our 5-Out Offense.

I really think he’s starting to figure things out. He’s been beating defenders off of the dribble a lot more lately and he’s shooting the ball great. He’s been a lot better on the defensive end as well.

Here are his stats during this current 5-game win streak by the Jazz:

15.2 PPG, 6.8 RPG, 1.8 APG, 1.0 SPG on 68/50/80 shooting splits in 25.5 MPG

8/16 from 3 and 76.6 TS%(!!!)

+45 in this 5-game span

 

[Elizah Huge]

@Thee Idiotic Minivan K eat your damn crow

 

[kabenac]

Fairly early on it was obvious his finger injury is better as he's shot well for a while. The defensive side is key. If Collins can keep it up on defense he's wonderful to have on the floor as he's efficient on offense and can stretch the floor.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Imagine once we get Filipowski..

 

[Tremendous Upside]

I really think he’s starting to figure things out. He’s been beating defenders off of the dribble a lot more lately

Props to Collins for his good play as of late, but... he most certainly has not done that. LOL

Consistency with the 3pt shot is what makes or breaks him offensively. His role on this team is basically a corner spacer who will occasionally sneak into the dunker's spot. Collins and Lauri have both been shooting really well and the offense is humming as a consequnce. Theres TONS of space.

Let's hope he can keep this up.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

@Thee Idiotic Minivan K eat your damn crow

No

 

[Elizah Huge]

Props to Collins for his good play as of late, but... he most certainly has not done that. LOL

Consistency with the 3pt shot is what makes or breaks him offensively. His role on this team is basically a corner spacer who will occasionally sneak into the dunker's spot. Collins and Lauri have both been shooting really well and the offense is humming as a consequnce. Theres TONS of space.

Let's hope he can keep this up.

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[HermanG]

Props to Collins for his good play as of late, but... he most certainly has not done that. LOL

Consistency with the 3pt shot is what makes or breaks him offensively. His role on this team is basically a corner spacer who will occasionally sneak into the dunker's spot. Collins and Lauri have both been shooting really well and the offense is humming as a consequnce. Theres TONS of space.

Let's hope he can keep this up.

I dont know what counts for you as "beating off the dribble", but his drives have been decent. Last 5 games he is 5/9 on driving buckets, and for the season he is 35/70.. with roughly 1/4 being unassisted.

 

[Isaiah 1:13]

Glad to see a Collins Appreciation thread finally. Hardy was absolutely correct when he said that Collins is a center. Once moved to that position in the five out scheme, things really clicked for him and the spacing has improved and his reads have been on point imo.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Glad to see a Collins Appreciation thread finally. Hardy was absolutely correct when he said that Collins is a center. Once moved to that position in the five out scheme, things really clicked for him and the spacing has improved and his reads have been on point imo.

What he's doing isn't that much different than what he was doing before. The shots are just falling and the whole offense is working better now, with more all movement and spacing. Collins is helping that, and it's helping Collins.

Whether he's playing the 4 or 5, his main job on offense is spacing from the corner and being ready to dive to the hoop along the baseline. He's not doing much posting up (if any), which is great.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

I dont know what counts for you as "beating off the dribble", but his drives have been decent. Last 5 games he is 5/9 on driving buckets, and for the season he is 35/70.. with roughly 1/4 being unassisted.

I guess he's strictly a straight line driver. When he sees the rim and has a clear lane, he has a good chance of scoring. But when he needs "wiggle", switching hands and that kind of stuff... nah. He's simply now a good ballhandler.

 

[Isaiah 1:13]

What he's doing isn't that much different than what he was doing before. The shots are just falling and the whole offense is working better now, with more all movement and spacing. Collins is helping that, and it's helping Collins.

Whether he's playing the 4 or 5, his main job on offense is spacing from the corner and being ready to dive to the hoop along the baseline. He's not doing much posting up (if any), which is great.

Yeah, l can’t really distinguish what the difference is in his responsibilities if any, only responding to the earlier criticism that he wasn’t picking up the offense. Maybe the lane was too packed for him to navigate or whatever but I remember a few times that he was noticeably out of position in the play. But whatever the reasons, he has obviously found his comfort zone and is contributing to our recent success.