NAOS
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For sure, which is why my sphincter puckered when I read the OPIt would be classic DL double down on a bad deal type ****.
For sure, which is why my sphincter puckered when I read the OPIt would be classic DL double down on a bad deal type ****.
I just don't know how you watched that playoff and think "Small guards are the next big thing... lets keep the aging one to pair with our best player who is also a small guard"For sure, which is why my sphincter puckered when I read the OP
This feels right... takes the MLE from a contender after this year unless he balls out and then gets a bigger 1 year offer from a team that misses on its big FA target.My guess is this:
- Conley opts in for next year because, well, $34M
- He does what the team asks, still a role model, yada, yada, yada
- Becomes free and clear in 2021, 33 years old and looks to take a deal on a contender for whatever they might pay for some vet help. Starting or not, he wants the ring
Does Conley really think Utah can be that team 3-4 years down the road? My guess is no, he'll go hitch a wagon to what Kawhi/Giannis are doing.
What's in it for Conley? From an economic perspective he would be dumb to do this.
He could tear his achilles, tear an acl, etc and be looking at minimum contracts for the rest of his career. It's a long-term security thing, especially if he likes the idea of finishing his career in Utah.I also don't get it. Some possible pandemic effects? What happens with the money of his contract's last year if the next season is completely cancelled? Although I guess it would be rather postponed much further than totally cancelled?
He could tear his achilles, tear an acl, etc and be looking at minimum contracts for the rest of his career. It's a long-term security thing, especially if he likes the idea of finishing his career in Utah.
Lets say he stays on his current deal and has a decent year (statically similar to this year), then signs for 40 over 3 years.
35 million this year
+40= 75 million over 4 years
What's his best case for his next deal? Let's say he has a better season then this prior year (which is what I think will happen). How much can he get over 3 years? I would think 60 would be the absolute peak. So the max he can make would be 95 million over 4 years.
So the deal Hollinger present would pay him 70-75 over 4 years, so he would only be losing 20-25 million off his max payday (according to my quick logic. It might be less depending on the exacts of the market). I think it's a solid deal if he wants security and likes playing in Utah.
Yes, security is a thing people care about, especially veterans."Security" my ***. Dude is not a rookie waiting for his first big contract. He already made a ******** of money.. Yeah, I understand what you mean by that of course. But is the uncertainty about next season adding to this calculations? Is it possible that his last year paycheck would be smaller than planned if season is shorter? (Shorter season means also lesser risk of injury). That would add an argument to taking a longer deal.
This feels right... takes the MLE from a contender after this year unless he balls out and then gets a bigger 1 year offer from a team that misses on its big FA target.
Even then Stockton was past his prime by the time he was 35. Players rarely maintain that level of production...
If you sign him to a 4 year - you are planning on using him as backup PG. Which 17 for a good backup PG is reasonable. John Stockton was still in his prime at 35/36 years old. Now, NO ONE had Stockton-Malone style longevity. But with nutritional supplements of the day and "load management" - I could see Conley being very efficient in a back up role through the age of 37/38 - even one of the best in the NBA.
There is no number that would surprise me with Wood... high or low.This could get the Jazz enough cap to nab Wood if they find a team to dump Ed/TB and let Clarkson walk at what I think is Wood’s maximum starting number ($15 mil/year, but it sounds like it will be less than that, and thus, potentially less bull **** to get the sufficient number).
If you can’t do anything with the savings then it’s ****ing pointless, of course.
This could get the Jazz enough cap to nab Wood if they find a team to dump Ed/TB and let Clarkson walk at what I think is Wood’s maximum starting number ($15 mil/year, but it sounds like it will be less than that, and thus, potentially less bull **** to get the sufficient number).
If you can’t do anything with the savings then it’s ****ing pointless, of course.
If the backup is your 6th man and a starter quality player, then yeah, it's completely reasonable.Who said 17M is reasonable for a backup. You're nuts man.