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LoPo said:
LOL. Okay guys....

Simmons is a SF and we don't have a starter right now. If we get Simmons at $10, then we have an option better than making Hood go to SF when he's not big enough yet. Sefolosha is a bench guy. Joe Johnson should be too. I love Mitchell, but there is no reason to force him in this season. If he's that good, he's going to take Hood's spot not a SF.

Simmons can guard 1 through 4. He's an asset. And at $10 per year, he's a steal.

1st Unit
Rubio
Hood
Simmons/Jingles
Favors
Gobert

2nd Unit
Exum
Mitchell
Jingles/Simmons
Johnson
Udoh

Depth - Bradley, Sefolosha, Jerekbo, Burks, Neto

Bolomboy waived
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Joe Ingles or Thabo is likely our starting SF IMO. I know nothing about Simmons but I don't see it. I think they are now done.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Communication is the difference. I would bet they had better communication with Diaw than Hayward did with anyone, as we see by Diaw already thanking everyone. If you think he hasn't already been talking to other teams you are nuts. Would not surprise me to see the announcement of his waiver and the announcement of him agreeing to a deal with a new team break within minutes.
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Yep, and the Jazz didn't leak that they were going to waive him, and then go "Wait, wait, wait. We haven't decided yet guys, we still might keep him. Just keep your eyes on us for a little longer because we crave attention. We'll probably let everyone know tomorrow, but again, we haven't decided yet, so there's still some hope for Boris."

Comparing the two circumstances is pretty dumb. Even the national media criticized Haywood for how ****ty it was handled. Lots of other FAs go through the same thing without being such attention whores. Kind of sad when Chris Paul handles the same situation in a completely professional manner, and then morons are sticking up for Haywood as if he did nothing any different than other FAs and trying compare Utah's handling of Boris as if they are the same thing. Smh
 
LoPo said:
LOL. Okay guys....

Simmons is a SF and we don't have a starter right now. If we get Simmons at $10, then we have an option better than making Hood go to SF when he's not big enough yet. Sefolosha is a bench guy. Joe Johnson should be too. I love Mitchell, but there is no reason to force him in this season. If he's that good, he's going to take Hood's spot not a SF.

Simmons can guard 1 through 4. He's an asset. And at $10 per year, he's a steal.
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I totally disagree. For starters, basketballreference.com has him playing SG for more than 90% of the time during his two years in the league, so you are basically guessing when you say he's a SF. Besides, for his career, at 10.6, Simmons PER is not only well bellow the league's average - which is 15.0 - but also decreased 11.9 to 9.9. So, basically, Simmons sucks statistically. He looks, to a certain extent, like someone who can create his own shot but nevertheless was assisted in more than half of those. Burks, in comparison, has been assisted in less than 40% of his shots. By the way, he and Burks are quite similar in many respects: they not only have same height, good to great athleticism, but also are inconsistent in their shooting both from mid-range and from outside. Simmons finishes better near the rim, but Burks has been truly awful at that the last few years. On the other hand, Burks is two years younger than Simmons. All in all, signing Simmons would be a very redundant move, IMO.
 
ghsartin said:
I totally disagree. For starters, basketballreference.com has him playing SG for more than 90% of the time during his two years in the league, so you are basically guessing when you say he's a SF. Besides, for his career, at 10.6, Simmons PER is not only well bellow the league's average - which is 15.0 - but also decreased 11.9 to 9.9. So, basically, Simmons sucks statistically. He looks, to a certain extent, like someone who can create his own shot but nevertheless was assisted in more than half of those. Burks, in comparison, has been assisted in less than 40% of his shots. By the way, he and Burks are quite similar in many respects: they not only have same height, good to great athleticism, but also are inconsistent in their shooting both from mid-range and from outside. Simmons finishes better near the rim, but Burks has been truly awful at that the last few years. On the other hand, Burks is two years younger than Simmons. All in all, signing Simmons would be a very redundant move, IMO.
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Ehh, I would call him more of a 3. He played next to Ginobili more than he did next to Kawhi (about equal tho). He is definitely someone who can be either, the problem is that he just cant shoot.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
Log... That's the first intelligent thing I have ever heard come out of your mouth. Congrats. Here's looking to the future. It can only go up from last year's offseason predictions, eh?

Also, the Jazz let Diaw go 3 days before the deadline. That's more than most teams would have done.

Finally, Simmons plays the SF spot with the Spurs. He came off the bench behind Kawhi. I find it shocking that the Spurs didn't keep 'their guy' in Simmons. If the Jazz signed him to play the 3 spot behind Hood or as Hoodsurance then I would be thrilled. I think that a 2 year $20 million dollar contract would be stellar. I don't think I would pay any more than that given our current group and depth. But he would be a great grab to help out our weakest spot.

Hood (injury prone) often plays the 2 spot
Joe Johnson is amazing, but getting older and that 'hot box' stuff can only go so far before an injury comes plus he often plays the 4 spot for us
Joe Ingles is a specialty stretch player who played the 2 and the 3 depending on the lineups
Thabo is a defensive specialist who gives us depth

In a league with a zillion wings and guards, having Simmons would be fine. Necessary? NOPE. But it does appear we have the cap space for it and the timing is right with the Diaw move and the QO rejection from the Spurs.
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Well thank you. We are all still waiting for your first intelligent post. Keep it up! You'll get there some day!
 
Ellis269 said:
I thought Jingles showed over the 2nd half of the season that he had the chops to be a quality NBA starter. I expect him to get first shot at the job.

Gobert, Favors, Jingles, Hood and Rubio will get first crack at it.

Udoh, Jerebko, Joe Jesus, Sefalosha, Mitchell, Burks, Exum and Neto will round out the best bench in the league. Bradley, Bolomboy, Wallace and one more will play for the Stars.
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This.
Gotta start rubio, hood, ingles, favs, and stifle
 
29% from three doe. (Simmons)
 
Did you guys watch any of the playing games? Simmons became the go to guy with kawhi down. He showed a ton of heart and really was the best offensive player besides perhaps ginobli for the rest of that series.

PS. Log, intelligent? How about last year's predictions for how the season would turn out when I guessed they would win between 50 and 52 games and if I had to pick a number I would pick 51...

That was when you posted piles of burning blue darts and predicted we wouldnt get close to making the playoffs and that George hill would be the worst starting point, and Joe Johnson was washed up. Hence you became the LOG.
 
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