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Joseph Smith taught that the moon was inhabited by people that live to be 1000 years old?

MoTown16 said:
Let's make a bet...if Scientology grows by 5 million members in the next 100 years, I'll buy you a case of your favorite beverage of choice.
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We won't be alive.

Besides, I don't think Scientology will grow that fast. Now enough people have the cash. Nor will the JWs, the no-blood and no-college thing is just too harsh. By comparison, no hot drinks is pretty mild.
 
One Brow said:
Considering the amount of money it takes to get into Scientology, I'd say they have Mormonism beat.
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Also factor in traveling to Utah from all over the world with just handcarts and Mormons still beat Scientology. Its not even close fella.
 
One Brow said:
See, I would interpret that as people categorizing my positions in a specific box, and then having to adapt when it turns out I meant something else entirely. For example, I don't need to hold not-A to say that an argument for A is very poor.
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One Brow said:
We won't be alive.

Besides, I don't think Scientology will grow that fast. Now enough people have the cash. Nor will the JWs, the no-blood and no-college thing is just too harsh. By comparison, no hot drinks is pretty mild.
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Haha, try and convince a person not to drink coffee in the mornings, or a Bolivian not to chew coca leaves....or an Italian to stop drinking wine...
 
Beantown said:
Haha, try and convince a person not to drink coffee in the mornings, or a Bolivian not to chew coca leaves....or an Italian to stop drinking wine...
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After you try telling them that if they need a blood transfusion to live, the better choice is to die.
 
I wonder if other Sports-Based message boards talk this much about religion. Somebody check the Charlotte Bobcats board and see if there is some discussion about the history of the Baptist church.
 
Well, there is more than just J. Smith going on a rant. There is a patriarchal blessing here as well correct?
So if this info was given out in this format, and now proven to be false. Can we say that blessings aren't
real?
 
Sirkickyass said:
I'm more interested in it because it's not a late-remembered revelation designed to make him look bad. It's proffered to make him look good. To the extent it was a fabrication, it's a fabrication designed to bolster his reputation. In my mind that means it either happened or we have evidence that the church embellishes leader histories to make them look good.
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Well, that's undoubtedly happened. And still happens, at least to the extent that they focus on the best qualities of past church leaders.

Speaking of which, have you ever taken a stroll through the history of official church portraits of Smith? Dude goes from looking like wormtail in Harry Potter to looking like Paul Newman.
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I've seen a wide variety of portraits, but I don't think I've ever look at them in chronological order. I guess that doesn't surprise me too much, though.

Most of the evidence regarding Smith's other wives is anecdotal, based on guesswork, or statements made by women who claimed to marry him but don't appear to have spent any meaningful amount of time with him (and at least one of whom married Brigham Young later). Several purported offspring have had their claims of descending from Smith blown apart by modern matrilineal DNA testing.
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I'd appreciate some more info on this. I researched this quite a bit some years ago (10?) but at that time I could only find one purported offspring and no DNA or RNA testing had been done on her (I think it was a female) descendants.
 
I've seen a wide variety of portraits, but I don't think I've ever look at them in chronological order. I guess that doesn't surprise me too much, though.
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https://www.josephsmith.net/josephs...ibit=fd0808961ece401008961ece401059340c0a____

Enjoy.

I'd appreciate some more info on this. I researched this quite a bit some years ago (10?) but at that time I could only find one purported offspring and no DNA or RNA testing had been done on her (I think it was a female) descendants.
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Here's an example article on the subject. To date every person genetically tested as a descendant not from Emma has come up negative. The last time I saw an article about it they had ruled out 7-8 possible wives that had claimed to mother Smith's children.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/695226318/DNA-tests-rule-out-2-as-Smith-descendants.html
 
Sirkickyass said:
Here's an example article on the subject. To date every person genetically tested as a descendant not from Emma has come up negative. The last time I saw an article about it they had ruled out 7-8 possible wives that had claimed to mother Smith's children.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/695226318/DNA-tests-rule-out-2-as-Smith-descendants.html
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Thanks, that's very interesting. Josephine Rosetta Lyon, daughter of Sylvia Sessions Lyon, is the one that I remember reading about last time I researched this. Too bad the person who has the best anecdotal evidence turns out to be the hardest one to test.
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Plural wife Sylvia Sessions Lyon left a deathbed affidavit for her daughter, Josephine, telling her that her father was Joseph Smith. In terms of circumstantial evidence, "that is probably the strongest case out there, but it involves a daughter. I've collected maybe 120 samples from descendants of Josephine, but as of today, there is not an accurate method" to prove parentage.
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One Brow said:
Different people at different times, I'm sure. The Book of Mormon didn't suddenly start showing up at bookstores.
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I found no evidence to suggest that the initial missionaries were converted on the force of Joseph's charisma as you claimed. Beans statements about the conversions revolving around the Book of Mormon seem to hold much more water from the conversion stories I read.
 
The Black Swordsman said:
I am interested in the theory that the LDS religion was made by Freemasons to better the world :/. I am seriously interested in becoming a Freemason in the future. Even made a picture for it using microsoft paint :)

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You should read the Manly P Hall books on Freemasonry if you haven't. They are huge, but worth it if you are really interested in that stuff. The problem with your "Allah" compass is that Masons believe in Osiris, Isis, Apollo, and ultimately that they themselves can be Gods. The 'all Gods are welcome' thing is a ruse.
 
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