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Law enforcement officials on Long Island worked quickly on Wednesday to publicly knock down social media posts falsely reporting that explosives had been found in a car near former President Donald Trump’s planned rally in New York.

Earlier Wednesday, Skrynecki and other county officials responded swiftly to knock down the online line claims, which appear to have started with a post from a reporter citing unnamed sources in the local police department.

“False,” Skrynecki texted the AP as the claims spread on X, formerly Twitter.

“No. Ridiculous. Zero validity,” said Christopher Boyle, spokesperson for Nassau County Executive Bruce Blakeman.
 
MT Steve said:
Truthfully?

I think there should be a large-scale public awareness campaign aimed at educating people about the various, proven misinformation content that includes exactly where it came from. I wouldn't even be opposed to providing strong incentives for social media platforms to provide links to these resources and to make them front-and-center. These resources should also be designed to teach people to critically evaluate information in order to be better equipped to, at a minimum, be skeptical about radical claims they see online.

I've also thought for a long while that the public education system should include a class taken each year from middle school and up that is designed specifically to teach teenagers how to think critically, how to research, and how to discern fact from pure fiction, specifically from an online perspective.
I also think the US should impose extremely harsh economic sanctions on any foreign government that is found to be actively engaged in disinformation campaigns aimed at undermining our elections or democratic processes.

The unfortunate reality is that too many politicians are parroting Russian propoganda, so it might be pretty hard for the government to implement these ideas. But for that very reason, I absolutely do not want them to have the power to regulate people's ideas and beliefs. I just don't trust a non-partisan committee to stay truly uncorrupted, especially given how insanely motivated bad actors would be to get a foothold in this committee, and how much money and resources would be poured into accomplishing that.
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Steve critical thinking is a process that takes depending on the individual a decent time to learn. Additionally their is no provision within the WTO to penalise nations for using the internet and other means to interfere with other states. There's a bunch of reasons for this, principally its because the "umpire" is the WTO and most of the trade law and rules that the WTO works off comes from the GATT which is now a 40 year old piece of law.

I've reached a point in my life where I feel like I'm living through the end of the enlightenment, actively watching the death of reason and logic in the public space. What a great world we've created for ourselves, I spit on the lot of you.
 
Rubashov said:
Steve critical thinking is a process that takes depending on the individual a decent time to learn.
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I agree. That's why I mentioned the idea with integrating it into public education, starting at the middle school level.

Rubashov said:
Additionally their is no provision within the WTO to penalise nations for using the internet and other means to interfere with other states. There's a bunch of reasons for this, principally its because the "umpire" is the WTO and most of the trade law and rules that the WTO works off comes from the GATT which is now a 40 year old piece of law.
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This is well outside the scope of the WTO, which just focuses on trade disputes. Countries have no obligation to go through the WTO when imposing sanctions for reasons outside of trade. The US has already done this with Iran and North Korea in response to their nuclear weapons development and their involvement in acts of terrorism.
 
MT Steve said:
Truthfully?

I think there should be a large-scale public awareness campaign aimed at educating people about the various, proven misinformation content that includes exactly where it came from. I wouldn't even be opposed to providing strong incentives for social media platforms to provide links to these resources and to make them front-and-center. These resources should also be designed to teach people to critically evaluate information in order to be better equipped to, at a minimum, be skeptical about radical claims they see online.

I've also thought for a long while that the public education system should include a class taken each year from middle school and up that is designed specifically to teach teenagers how to think critically, how to research, and how to discern fact from pure fiction, specifically from an online perspective.
I also think the US should impose extremely harsh economic sanctions on any foreign government that is found to be actively engaged in disinformation campaigns aimed at undermining our elections or democratic processes.

The unfortunate reality is that too many politicians are parroting Russian propoganda, so it might be pretty hard for the government to implement these ideas. But for that very reason, I absolutely do not want them to have the power to regulate people's ideas and beliefs. I just don't trust a non-partisan committee to stay truly uncorrupted, especially given how insanely motivated bad actors would be to get a foothold in this committee, and how much money and resources would be poured into accomplishing that.
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Non- partisan FDA

Let’s have a government speech oversight department like the FDA

Example of why it would never work:

View: https://x.com/endtribalism/status/1836127986275193028?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ


I like RFK but even I stated I wouldn’t want him in FDA.
 
MT Steve said:
I agree. That's why I mentioned the idea with integrating it into public education, starting at the middle school level.


This is well outside the scope of the WTO, which just focuses on trade disputes. Countries have no obligation to go through the WTO when imposing sanctions for reasons outside of trade. The US has already done this with Iran and North Korea in response to their nuclear weapons development and their involvement in acts of terrorism.
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Yeah you're right about sanctions, drunk me didn't think of that when i got home from the pub last night.

I'd start it earlier but id add that my most significant education in critical thinking came from the dinner table. I'm 42 and for the most part was just ahead of the funding cuts to education through my schooling, for instance in my last year of primary school the arts, sports, music, computing and woodwork programs were stopped but I'd already had the benefit of 5 years of it. At high school level all this stuff was funded and it wasn't until after I'd graduated that class sizes started to balloon to 30 plus students in a class. So I look at the education that younger people have had and I feel sorry for them, how are you supposed to thrive in an environment where your teacher is spending more time keeping the peace than teaching the class?

At Uni I did modern history, philosophy and logic and politics (specialised in systems theory), it was only in prerequisite honours classes which had minimum grade requirements for entry (B+ from memory) was I in a learning environment where we would have active and interesting discussions of ideas. Outside of those classes most of my piers, the vast majority from expensive private schools were impervious to the ideas they were learning.
 
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Here is Jerome Powell stating that the high influx of border crossings have a direct effect on unemployment numbers.


View: https://x.com/cortessteve/status/1836503242433241451?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ


Again, what I have been saying, this increases the need for Americas already limited resources, to support the people coming here in the millions.

Close the border, pause immigration, get our house in order, open to need base immigration.

It’s not about Race, it’s always about economics. We can’t take everyone, we can’t support everyone, let’s take of our own, then start helping more people.
 
Bucknutz said:
Here is Jerome Powell stating that the high influx of border crossings have a direct effect on unemployment numbers.


View: https://x.com/cortessteve/status/1836503242433241451?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ


Again, what I have been saying, this increases the need for Americas already limited resources, to support the people coming here in the millions.

Close the border, pause immigration, get our house in order, open to need base immigration.

It’s not about Race, it’s always about economics. We can’t take everyone, we can’t support everyone, let’s take of our own, then start helping more people.
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Too bad they couldn't pass the border reform bill that was agreed upon by both sides and would have curtailed a big chunk of this problem. But Trump needed this to be his campaign issue so he instructed his cultists to kill it even after they were the ones who built it. Blame lies directly at Trump's feet.
 
Rubashov said:
class sizes started to balloon to 30 plus students in a class. So I look at the education that younger people have had and I feel sorry for them, how are you supposed to thrive in an environment where your teacher is spending more time keeping the peace than teaching the class?

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I see this issue at my daughter's school all the time. Less and less people want to go into the teaching profession. For good reason.

We need more teachers. And more funding for education.

I was at the school this past Tuesday playing basketball with some of the kids at recess. The ball they were using was literally the worst basketball I have ever seen. They used to have like 3 balls so I asked them why they were using this one and they said the others went missing.

So last night I got one of 2 basketballs that I own (it's a pretty nice one but not my best one. My best one is for indoor and my other one is for outdoor) and got out my pump and pumped it up (I haven't used it in a long time) and wrote the name of the school in marker on it and my wife is going to bring it to school today and leave it there.


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LogGrad98 said:
Too bad they couldn't pass the border reform bill that was agreed upon by both sides and would have curtailed a big chunk of this problem. But Trump needed this to be his campaign issue so he instructed his cultists to kill it even after they were the ones who built it. Blame lies directly at Trump's feet.
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Trump is also pissed that the interest rates were cut yesterday. He wants the economy to suck. He wants immigration issues. He wants crime. He wants unemployment. He wants the stock market to crash. He wants anything that can make America worse since he thinks (probably correctly) it will help him get elected.
Just a real patriot.

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fishonjazz said:
Trump is also pissed that the interest rates were cut yesterday. He wants the economy to suck. He wants immigration issues. He wants crime. He wants unemployment. He wants the stock market to crash. He wants anything that can make America worse since he thinks (probably correctly) it will help him get elected.
Just a real patriot.

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Par for the course for sure….

“Powell, whom Trump first appointed to his position, said, “We do our work to serve all Americans. We’re not serving any politician, any political figure, any cause, any issue, nothing. It’s just maximum employment and price stability on behalf of all Americans.”

Powell was anticipating accusations from Trump that his cutting of rates was an attempt to benefit Harris before the election. Indeed, Jeff Stein of the Washington Postreported that Trump advisor Steven Moore called the move “jaw-dropping. There's no reason they couldn't do 25 now and 25 right after the election. Why not wait till then?” Moore added, "I'm not saying [the] reduction isn't justified—it may well be and they have more data than I do. But i just think, 'why now?’” Alabama senator Tommy Tuberville called the cut “shamelessly political.”

The New Yorker’s Philip Gourevitch noted that “Trump has been begging officials worldwide not to do the right thing for years to help rig the election for him—no deal in Gaza, no defense of Ukraine, no Kremlin hostages release, no border deal, no continuing resolution, no interest rate cuts etc—just sabotage & subterfuge.”

heathercoxrichardson.substack.com

September 18, 2024

Today, at a White House reception in celebration of Hispanic Heritage Month, President Joe Biden said: "We don't demonize immigrants.
heathercoxrichardson.substack.com heathercoxrichardson.substack.com
 
LogGrad98 said:
Too bad they couldn't pass the border reform bill that was agreed upon by both sides and would have curtailed a big chunk of this problem.
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When was this bill voted on? The original one?

1. February 2024, original, when it was tied to Ukraine funding.

2. May 23, 2024, stand alone, when it was shot down in the senate.
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But Trump needed this to be his campaign issue so he instructed his cultists to kill it even after they were the ones who built it.
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So if Trump says, this bill is great and all republicans should vote for it and it gets approved, you’re talking around the 1st of June being signed off on.

That would have been 105 days ago, or 3 1/2 months ago.

Biden has been in office for 41 months before that bill would have been signed.

So let’s look at the numbers from the first 41 months of immigration and then the last 3 1/2 months.

First 41 months - 9.5 million immigrants (this is only till April 2024, so you could add the reported 118k immigrants from May.

STARTLING STATS FACTSHEET: Biden Administration on Track to Reach 10 Million Encounters Nationwide Before End of Fiscal Year – Committee on Homeland Security

homeland.house.gov homeland.house.gov

June 24 - 83,500
July 24 - 61,400
August 24 - 58,000
Total for 3 months - 203k

First 41 months - 9.6 million
Last 3 months - 203k

First 41 months - 97.9% of all immigrants who came during Biden’s administration.

Last 3 months - .0207%
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Blame lies directly at Trump's feet.
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So do you want to be honest with what has happened with immigration under the Biden Administration and using Trump as the scapegoat?

If you can’t be honest then we can’t have an honest debate.
 
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Rubashov said:
Steve critical thinking is a process that takes depending on the individual a decent time to learn. Additionally their is no provision within the WTO to penalise nations for using the internet and other means to interfere with other states. There's a bunch of reasons for this, principally its because the "umpire" is the WTO and most of the trade law and rules that the WTO works off comes from the GATT which is now a 40 year old piece of law.

I've reached a point in my life where I feel like I'm living through the end of the enlightenment, actively watching the death of reason and logic in the public space. What a great world we've created for ourselves, I spit on the lot of you.
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I fart in your general direction.
 
Bucknutz said:
When was this bill voted on? The original one?

1. February 2024, original, when it was tied to Ukraine funding.

2. May 23, 2024, stand alone, when it was shot down in the senate.

So if Trump says, this bill is great and all republicans should vote for it and it gets approved, you’re talking around the 1st of June being signed off on.

That would have been 105 days ago, or 3 1/2 months ago.

Biden has been in office for 41 months before that bill would have been signed.

So let’s look at the numbers from the first 41 months of immigration and then the last 3 1/2 months.

First 41 months - 9.5 million immigrants (this is only till April 2024, so you could add the reported 118k immigrants from May.

STARTLING STATS FACTSHEET: Biden Administration on Track to Reach 10 Million Encounters Nationwide Before End of Fiscal Year – Committee on Homeland Security

homeland.house.gov homeland.house.gov

June 24 - 83,500
July 24 - 61,400
August 24 - 58,000
Total for 3 months - 203k

First 41 months - 9.6 million
Last 3 months - 203k

First 41 months - 97.9% of all immigrants who came during Biden’s administration.

Last 3 months - .0207%

So do you want to be honest with what has happened with immigration under the Biden Administration and using Trump as the scapegoat?

If you can’t be honest then we can’t have an honest debate.
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Here is a good breakdown of the border crisis.


Here is an article on the debacle of trying to get the bi-partisan bill passed.

www.nbcnews.com

Senate Republicans block border security bill as they campaign on border chaos

Nearly every GOP senator, along with six Democrats, voted to filibuster a bipartisan bill designed to crack down on migration and reduce border crossings.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

So, yes, Trump did kill the first bi-partisan bill and most conservative border bill in decades.

Lastly, no one claimed Biden had the perfect plan, or even a good one, or that his policies did what they wanted them to do, just that they finally had a bi-partisan bill, Trump announced publicly that they shouldn't pass it, and, in perfect aryan lock-step, the ones who CREATED IT immediate CRATERED IT. That is indisputable. Also, no one takes into account the issue of people simply arriving at the border at higher numbers, or the rebound effect after the historic lows of COVID, instead they make it sound like Biden went to south America and personally invited people in while Trump stood with angels and a flaming sword, valiantly defending the border, when his own record isn't too great either, both from a crossing standpoint and from a humanitarian one. Not to mention the ridiculous border wall debacle that did NOTHING to curtail illegal immigration, but did cost taxpayers a ****-ton. When is Mexico writing us a check exactly?

www.migrationpolicy.org

The “Trump Effect” on Legal Immigration Levels: More Perception than Reality?

Despite a widespread perception that the Trump administration has drastically slashed legal immigration to the United States, a review of the data shows that temporary and permanent admissions during the period mostly followed previous trends—at least until the COVID-19 pandemic hit. This...
www.migrationpolicy.org www.migrationpolicy.org


But Trump supporters have been made to believe that all immigrants are scum of the earth and deserve any bad thing that comes their way, that is the Trump way, the "othering" of the demagogue or aspiring dictator. And boy does it work. I guess if you don't give a **** about women children or families as long as they come from "******** countries", then you are fine with everything he "accomplished", which is virtually no change in immigration, but a severe decline in human rights at the border. Yay?




And man, you sure do get testy when the Orange One is challenged. You sure you aren't MAGA dyed in the wool masquerading in sheep's clothing? The evidence is building.
 
LogGrad98 said:
www.propublica.org

Abortion Bans Have Delayed Emergency Medical Care. In Georgia, Experts Say This Mother’s Death Was Preventable.

At least two women in Georgia died after they couldn’t access legal abortions and timely medical care in their state, ProPublica has found. This is one of their stories.
www.propublica.org www.propublica.org
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Debunked bull crap.

newsbusters.org

Reid Spreads ProPublica's Fake News About Pro-Life Laws Killing Women

ProPublica has taken a break from generating fake controversies about Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas in order to start generating fake controversies about pro-life laws. Recently, the outlet highlighted Georgian women Candy Miller and Amber Nicole Thurman, who they claimed died as a...
newsbusters.org newsbusters.org
 
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