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Locked On Jazz 10/16/17 Hood RFA Notes

Pretty obvious that Hood and his agent want a number... and that the number is too far north of what Hood has proven to this point.
 
NAOS said:
Pretty obvious that Hood and his agent want a number... and that the number is too far north of what Hood has proven to this point.
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IMO He probably wanted something similar to what Harris got and if that's the case I can understand why DL would decide to wait it out.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
So renouncing Exum and/or trading Burks and waiving a bunch of non-guaranteed vets is scorching the earth?
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And renouncing Neto, Favors, Joe Johnson... combined with giving up on Exum (should do that now if that is where we are headed), plus whatever asset we used to give Burks away.

Dropping down to 5 players... That is pretty much scorched earth. Renouncing all of those guys means they won't be back except for potentially Neto.
 
stitches said:
IMO He probably wanted something similar to what Harris got and if that's the case I can understand why DL would decide to wait it out.
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I think I would have gone for that if I was DL... or something close to it. If he stays healthy and takes a decent step forward I think he gets that deal.

I think we may have wanted team options or a steeper discount because of health concerns... which are legit.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think it is a reason but it's much lower on the list than health and consistency.
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Bingo.

Hood was likely holding out for more than Utah wanted to pay and Utah wasn't ready to give it to him. Which kind of falls in line with TJ saying they wanted to wait and see if he could stay healthy.

The reason Locke gave has a element of truth to it, but if Utah had the chance to re-sign Hood at a decent price, it would be silly to risk having to match a huge contract in order to preserve cap space that isn't likely to be a factor anyway.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think I would have gone for that if I was DL... or something close to it. If he stays healthy and takes a decent step forward I think he gets that deal.
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If he does get that deal then we can just match anyway right? (I'm thinking he would be restricted but I could be wrong)
If so, then what benefit would there be to extending early? Seems like there would only be downside. (He gets hurt or plays like crap and we regret the extension)
 
fishonjazz said:
If he does get that deal then we can just match anyway right? (I'm thinking he would be restricted but I could be wrong)
If so, then what benefit would there be to extending early? Seems like there would only be downside. (He gets hurt or plays like crap and we regret the extension)
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Right... the downside is him getting max or close to it or a 3 plus 1 deal at the same money like Hayward did. If he does that he has stayed healthy and taken a step forward.

I just think if we were at 17-18M and he was at 20 that you figure that out. I think we are nervous about the injury history or he wants that George Hill money and hasn't figured out that the market is working against him next year.

There is risk on both sides. Only takes one team with space and they may try to make the contract toxic so it won't get matched. I doubt it happens but there is risk.
 
These also the DM factor in play and weather or not Hood can play the 3...

Still so many variable to agree to $20+Mil extension imo.
 
Who is going to give Hood the max? If he does perform well enough for the few teams with cap space to want to offer Hood (a RFA) a max deal, then that's still a win for the Jazz.
 
I think the Jazz are betting the market will be soft for Hood as an RFA. I think there's merit to keeping $10M in cap space in a league where cap space is becoming scarce, but beyond this I think the Jazz want to see how Mitchell plays, what happens with Favors, etc. In other words, they're pushing the decision down the road and giving Hood the opportunity to earn his contract.
 
MDAV28 said:
Who is going to give Hood the max? If he does perform well enough for the few teams with cap space to want to offer Hood (a RFA) a max deal, then that's still a win for the Jazz.
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Dallas, Indiana might be the biggest threats.

The maybes - BKN, Sacramento, Philly These teams may not have the space depending on player options and extensions.

Maybe the Lakers once they miss out on all the big boys.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Dallas, Indiana might be the biggest threats.

The maybes - BKN, Sacramento, Philly These teams may not have the space depending on player options and extensions.

Maybe the Lakers once they miss out on all the big boys.
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Essentially a very slim market. Not so sure Indiana would be wanting to pay 40% of the salary cap to Dipo and Hood but who knows.
 
MDAV28 said:
Essentially a very slim market. Not so sure Indiana would be wanting to pay 40% of the salary cap to Dipo and Hood but who knows.
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The FA class is also shallow. Zach LaVine, Aaron Gordon (maybe), Avery Bradley, KCP, Jabari Parker, Robert Covington (maybe) are some of the wing/youngish guys. Say Zach and RoCo extend now... it gets really shallow really quick.

If he plays 70 ish games and scores close to 20 a game he will get 20+. If he has the season he had last year I'm not sure he gets a good long term deal... more like a 2/35-40.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
The FA class is also shallow. Zach LaVine, Aaron Gordon (maybe), Avery Bradley, KCP, Jabari Parker, Robert Covington (maybe) are some of the wing/youngish guys. Say Zach and RoCo extend now... it gets really shallow really quick.

If he plays 70 ish games and scores close to 20 a game he will get 20+. If he has the season he had last year I'm not sure he gets a good long term deal... more like a 2/35-40.
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But like I said, that's still a win for the Jazz. They'd drive Rodney Hood right to the bank and write a check if Hood outperforms all those players. Also you'd figure Avery Bradley and KCP may be a little more valued considering two-way players and being unrestricted. I just don't see the point of the Jazz extending Hood at a Gary Harris like number.
 
MDAV28 said:
But like I said, that's still a win for the Jazz. They'd drive Rodney Hood right to the bank and write a check if Hood outperforms all those players. Also you'd figure Avery Bradley and KCP may be a little more valued considering two-way players and being unrestricted. I just don't see the point of the Jazz extending Hood at a Gary Harris like number.
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I agree pretty much... there is a limited market and the risk for us is not too crazy.

In other news I see Gordon, smart, and Parker aren't getting extensions... Say we think DM is the 2-guard we want now and in the future... any reasonable trade there with Orlando with Gordon and Hood being the main principles? I think he'd be great as a four in our system.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
The FA class is also shallow. Zach LaVine, Aaron Gordon (maybe), Avery Bradley, KCP, Jabari Parker, Robert Covington (maybe) are some of the wing/youngish guys. Say Zach and RoCo extend now... it gets really shallow really quick.

If he plays 70 ish games and scores close to 20 a game he will get 20+. If he has the season he had last year I'm not sure he gets a good long term deal... more like a 2/35-40.
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If Hood is getting a 20 million a year offer from other teams, the Jazz are in a VERY good place going forward. You are only counting the RFAs. There are quite a number of UFA's as well, with only 5 or 6 teams with money, and ALL of those teams with the exception of Dallas and Indy have young talent in the hopper that will need to be paid.
 
framer said:
If Hood is getting a 20 million a year offer from other teams, the Jazz are in a VERY good place going forward. You are only counting the RFAs. There are quite a number of UFA's as well, with only 5 or 6 teams with money, and ALL of those teams with the exception of Dallas and Indy have young talent in the hopper that will need to be paid.
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I mentioned a few UFAs but omitted bigs. Also didn't consider guys like Lebron PG.

I agree is he warrants the contract we good... just saying there is still some risk that if he's healthy and plays well the price may go up from 17-20 to 25-28... it's not a good chance but it's a chance.
 
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