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Lockout!!!

I wonder if Billy Hunter's public acknowledgement that the idea was floated to start a new player's league will affect their anti-trust case.

If the players really can start their own league, then the owners aren't really being all that anti-trustworthy.

(What would really be entertaining is if both the players and the owners started separate leagues, and to see which one survived--or both.)
 
InGameStrategy said:
(What would really be entertaining is if both the players and the owners started separate leagues, and to see which one survived--or both.)
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Owners win. The NBA would retain the arena rights and television contracts. Superstars would have a small league playing in second-tier arenas with maybe a TV contract from Versus. I'd like to see more ex-players like Jordan become part of ownership groups. Then they could enlighten the players and reps about concepts like risk/return and ROI, etc.
 
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Risk/return, ROI what's that? We play and you give me millions of dollars. If you don't I'm holding out until I get paid. Ugghh.

Does anyone know whether the players that were not allowed to vote on the NBA proposal could ban together and assuming they were more than half of the players could they still vote to accept the deal? If more than half want the deal could they say we never got a chance to approve or disapprove and we want to accept despite the disclaimer of interest? I assume the answer is no because if the answer was yes, players should be calling every single player in the league with 1-5 years experience and all players making less than 6 million dollars a year and see if a majority would accept the deal.
 
oldtimer said:
Risk/return, ROI what's that? We play and you give me millions of dollars. If you don't I'm holding out until I get paid. Ugghh.

Does anyone know whether the players that were not allowed to vote on the NBA proposal could ban together and assuming they were more than half of the players could they still vote to accept the deal? If more than half want the deal could they say we never got a chance to approve or disapprove and we want to accept despite the disclaimer of interest? I assume the answer is no because if the answer was yes, players should be calling every single player in the league with 1-5 years experience and all players making less than 6 million dollars a year and see if a majority would accept the deal.
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Isn't that one of the reasons they didn't fully disband? so that the union, I mean trade association, could keep control on the rank and file?
 
oldtimer said:
Risk/return, ROI what's that? We play and you give me millions of dollars. If you don't I'm holding out until I get paid. Ugghh.

Does anyone know whether the players that were not allowed to vote on the NBA proposal could ban together and assuming they were more than half of the players could they still vote to accept the deal? If more than half want the deal could they say we never got a chance to approve or disapprove and we want to accept despite the disclaimer of interest? I assume the answer is no because if the answer was yes, players should be calling every single player in the league with 1-5 years experience and all players making less than 6 million dollars a year and see if a majority would accept the deal.
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If they want someone showing up at their doors with baseball bats and crow bars sure they could have their own vote.
 
I like how most of the remaining stars and superstars are close to signing overseas for millions while the rank and file players will be paying for their Thanksgiving and Christmas meals with unemployment checks. Let's see how long this lasts.
 
Jazz4ever said:
I like how most of the remaining stars and superstars are close to signing overseas for millions while the rank and file players will be paying for their Thanksgiving and Christmas meals with unemployment checks. Let's see how long this lasts.
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Well if the remaining players hold off until the start of the next Euro season I'm sure they could all get jobs playing in some league. You make it sound like they are going to starve. They will survive. These aren't people who are use to being millionaires their whole lives.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Well if the remaining players hold off until the start of the next Euro season I'm sure they could all get jobs playing in some league. You make it sound like they are going to starve. They will survive. These aren't people who are use to being millionaires their whole lives.
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Whether they have enough savings to live on (vs. drawing unemployment, begging, mooching, doing promotional appearances here and there, etc.) is not particularly relevant to the notion that by not approving the deal (partly by not having a chance to and not really having had much explained to them about it), they are missing out on six, seven, or maybe even eight figures of salary this year that they will be hard-pressed to recuperate in alternative lines of work, including overseas play.

I think that most fans here care more about whether they play (and maybe what their decisionmaking process is in doing so) than whether they survive, which is probably a non-issue as you correctly suggest.
 
oldtimer said:
Risk/return, ROI what's that? We play and you give me millions of dollars. If you don't I'm holding out until I get paid. Ugghh.
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....well, that's the type of thinking you have that comes from guys who think nothing of covering there ENTIRE bodies from neck to foot with tattoo's.......and who think nothing bad happens at 2 am in the morning at Strip Clubs! Do you honestly think these guys have an ounce of brains or any common sense whatsoever?
 
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