even more so, now. . . . lol
Longest Thread Ever
- Thread starter babe
- Start date
even more so, now. . . . lol
Rodman, arguably if improbably, has learned the lesson of the ages. The life span of a court jester is shorter than that of a capital criminal, because while ordinary criminals can be tolerated in their dungeons, the jester whose joke falls flat and is mistaken as an insult will be beheaded the next day.
Totalitarian regimes are a phenomenon of the secular "humanist" age. Despots whose power is absolute can tolerate no other "shining lights" of public focus, precisely for the reason why they require idolatrous adulation in their national media. There can be no "other" significant personages, because an idolatrous populace mistakes public recognition for government power.
And every totalitarian dictator must be suspicious of anyone who gets any attention. . . . .
just realized what LANA spelled backwards is...
so glad I'm not named Lana
and I just realized what inilliveom is spelled backwards.
so glad I'm not named inilliveom.
The reason for this is as simple as it is obvious.
Before "secular humanism" became so prevalent, kings and governments had to appeal to some religion for validation, which meant the honchos had to profess some kind of decent virtue to impress the peasants. And before religions became so prevalent, the heads of clans had to pretend to be members in good standing of some tribal tradition. It is only the modern "secular humanist" that can claim absolute and unquestioned authority. . . . every precedent in history prior to this age had some kind of cultural context even the kings couldn't abrogate with impunity.
reminds me of my namesake movie, Babe, where the narrator portends the machinations of the cat: "Beware the cat bearing a grudge" suggests a corollary "Beware the secular humanist bearing an opinion". And the voice of the Shadow. . . . with the sinister laugh. . . . "Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of man?" the very definition of evil is a state of unchecked purpose not answerable to public scrutiny. And that, folks, is the essence, the heart, of that philosophy falsely labeled "secular humanism". It does indeed place man at the pinnacle of power in the cosmos. . . .. but not all men equally. . . . in fact it must resolve itself into placing one man at that pinnacle. . . which is the final revelation of totalitarian authority.
and it is looking more and more like Obama has gone down that road and imagines himself to be that One.
well,in less than eleven months since starting this thread. . . .even after sorta dropping the ball lately. . . .
I'm presently #36 in the post count. . . . .
Just a second thought here. . . . before entering into the territory of intentional meaninglessness. . . . well, in some degree if not absolutely. . . . I've been doing more work and getting less acclaim. How absurd is that, that in a sports forum, there is a positive correlation between respect given and content contained. . . .
Wow, that is so out of touch with history, it boggles the mind. Tyrants have always existed, and were happy to use religion to justify their behavior by saying saying they had God's favor to perform it. Religion is just as valuable a tool for the tyrant as for the benevolent ruler.
PearlWatson
Well-Known Member
you think you know what is true history??? You accept the things you're told by authorities???? What is taught in statist regimes like the United States now is, is propaganda, not history. Some folks have noted that "history" is always written by the winners. . . . usually totalitarian types. . . .
The religion of Jesus started out as a sort of dissident movement against an established state religion tolerated and exploited by the Romans, but only became useful to the tyrants once it became quite prevalent, and achieved state sanction after Constantine.
your are a professed advocate of "secular humanism", and I understand you don't want to see the truth about your religion. You might see some distinctions between Marxism and "Secular Humanism". If you want to discuss the impact of "Secular Humanism" as the hypothetical United States State-sanctioned religon of today, I would appreciate it if you cared to take an hour or so to lay down the foundations of what you believe in this thread. Define "Secular Humanism" to your best ability, and to your actual belief.
Then expect me to respond by showing how various twentieth century despots have invoked these ideas in their statist rule.
I am drawing a distinction here between folks who actually believe there is a "God" whose judgments are relevant, as. . .. say. . . . Benjamin Franklin or George Washington. . . . and folks who believe humans can fare better on their own judgment.
Humans acting on their own judgment, acknowledging no "higher principle", do fall into different groups of political philosophy, and indeed there have been tyrants as well who believed, or pretended to believe, they were acting in the cause of God. I don't think God really thought they were in the right, and I generally don't accept statist religion as valid any more than any other kind of propaganda or delusion. I am speaking of the kind of conscience that acts as a check against doing evil. That is my kind of religion. I think you could possibly construct some arguments of how some people's principles in secular humanism can do as much.
I think it's a worthwhile discussion to have, and it could move us both to a little better ground in our lives. . . .