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in on historical thread. always wanted to be apart of history.

I thought you were practically management in here, but now you're "banned"? With rep adjustment power 0? What happened.

Good sense of humor, though, the bit about how you "wanted to be apart of history". Hope you'll come back and track along in history with the rest of us. . . .
 
Yeah I'm definitely still a believer, just now and again I like to play devil's advocate (I know I shouldn't). But at times I do get those curve ball questions from friends and family who are mostly Buddhists and/or atheists.


As an example, Babe, when you said "What is the down side of believing in Jesus?". To that, my brother would say something like "Well, imagine that this world was created by a God unknown to us whose rule simply states that "If you believe in Jesus (or any known God), you would go straight to Hell after death". In such case there is a down side to believing in Jesus (or any known God). It's an unlikely scenario for sure (and a stupid one at that), but even I could not rule out that possibility (at least not in an abstract sense).
 
Yeah I'm definitely still a believer, just now and again I like to play devil's advocate (I know I shouldn't). But at times I do get those curve ball questions from friends and family who are mostly Buddhists and/or atheists.


As an example, Babe, when you said "What is the down side of believing in Jesus?". To that, my brother would say something like "Well, imagine that this world was created by a God unknown to us whose rule simply states that "If you believe in Jesus (or any known God), you would go straight to Hell after death". In such case there is a down side to believing in Jesus (or any known God). It's an unlikely scenario for sure (and a stupid one at that), but even I could not rule out that possibility (at least not in an abstract sense).

Brigham Young had the wit it takes to deal with disbelievers. When folks tried to tell him that the Mormons were all going to Hell, he said:

"Well, if that's true, we're going to run the Devil out and irrigate the place, and turn it into Heaven."
 
Brigham Young had the wit it takes to deal with disbelievers. When folks tried to tell him that the Mormons were all going to Hell, he said:

"Well, if that's true, we're going to run the Devil out and irrigate the place, and turn it into Heaven."

Sounds like a real character.... LOL... (oops I shouldn't laugh should I?)
 
Once, traveling by horse and buggy, Brigham Young found the road a little too long. It went around a field to get to the house on the other side.

So he told his little entourage it was time for another road, and drove his buggy across the field.
 
Brigham Young had less charisma but more leadership than Joseph Smith. He could stand up in conference. . . the ultimate mother of all church meetings I suppose. . . . and announce that a new settlement was needed, say somewhere over ten horizons in some intractable desert with a river running through it, and ask for volunteers. . . . and my great grandpa jumped right up be the first volunteer. . . . ggpa was a sailor who had never seen a desert. . . . well, unless you wanna call the plains or Wyoming a desert. . . .nothing like the Southwest. . . .

The settlement was needed to raise cotton because with the Civil War in the news, the supply of cotton was uncertain, and the need for cloth was real. ggpa was not a farmer, had never planted cotton or worked with it. He did know how to raise grapes and make wine, though. His grapevines are still going strong.

Turned out, they couldn't even get the wagons into "Dixie" without ropes and somebody who knew how to hoist big stuff over cliffs. Everyday work for a sailor.
 
Brigham Young had less charisma but more leadership than Joseph Smith. He could stand up in conference. . . the ultimate mother of all church meetings I suppose. . . . and announce that a new settlement was needed, say somewhere over ten horizons in some intractable desert with a river running through it, and ask for volunteers. . . . and my great grandpa jumped right up be the first volunteer. . . . ggpa was a sailor who had never seen a desert. . . . well, unless you wanna call the plains or Wyoming a desert. . . .nothing like the Southwest. . . .

The settlement was needed to raise cotton because with the Civil War in the news, the supply of cotton was uncertain, and the need for cloth was real. ggpa was not a farmer, had never planted cotton or worked with it. He did know how to raise grapes and make wine, though. His grapevines are still going strong.

Turned out, they couldn't even get the wagons into "Dixie" without ropes and somebody who knew how to hoist big stuff over cliffs. Everyday work for a sailor.

Brigham Young lived up to his promise. "Dixie" was Hell, and the Mormons did irrigate it.
 
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