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yesterday I was giving a history lecture to my kids, after having them watch some American History dvds. . . ..
About how British bankers were funneling money through different channels, a la Machiavelli, to run up the issue of Abolition in the North, and Secession in the South. . . .and how the New York bankers who selected Abraham Lincoln to head the Republican ticket actually wanted to push the South to secede. In fact, they hand-picked Lincoln's cabinet for him and had it all figured out. . . . they were going to tell Lincoln to just let the seceding states go their own way, and did in fact try to.
But Abraham Lincoln saw it differently, and broke ranks with his financial backers at the very first meeting of his cabinet, declaring "The Union must be preserved". He was attacked by many folks in the north for this stand, but single-handedly he made the case with his rhetorical skills. He knew the United States, if it broke apart, would forever just be a set of pawn pieces in the hands of foreign interests, if not occupied by foreign armies.
I liked Joseph Smith's idea in the 1844 campaign: buy the slaves, set them free, and give them a state. . . . like the Indians were supposed to get Oklahoma. . . . of their own.
About how British bankers were funneling money through different channels, a la Machiavelli, to run up the issue of Abolition in the North, and Secession in the South. . . .and how the New York bankers who selected Abraham Lincoln to head the Republican ticket actually wanted to push the South to secede. In fact, they hand-picked Lincoln's cabinet for him and had it all figured out. . . . they were going to tell Lincoln to just let the seceding states go their own way, and did in fact try to.
But Abraham Lincoln saw it differently, and broke ranks with his financial backers at the very first meeting of his cabinet, declaring "The Union must be preserved". He was attacked by many folks in the north for this stand, but single-handedly he made the case with his rhetorical skills. He knew the United States, if it broke apart, would forever just be a set of pawn pieces in the hands of foreign interests, if not occupied by foreign armies.
I liked Joseph Smith's idea in the 1844 campaign: buy the slaves, set them free, and give them a state. . . . like the Indians were supposed to get Oklahoma. . . . of their own.
I'm pretty sure there are a lot of Turkish people reading the forum, maybe they just don't feel any need to register. But I don't resort to Turkish for that kind of matter in any way. Actually I care about not seeming too Turkish most of the time because I'm not nationalist or proud of my ethnicity(I didn't choose it, why would I be proud?) at all. Plus, I know it could irritate the native posters. But at the end, I fail sometimes because it's just who I am and at those times I feel I have to resort to Turkish to express what I think or feel.
I'm planning to study some American history, especially after the Colonial period and the founding years. So could you suggest the best sources that you know for me? I'm seeking for unbiased, objective and of course easy to read sources.
Stay away from college "History" courses and textbooks. . . . some evil grinch has seized control of "education" in this country and replaced it with propaganda to pave the way to Hell and the New World Order.
The DVD's I've mentioned I got out of the DVD bin at Smiths. . . . sometimes they're not expecially good, but recently I picked up one on the American Revolution that has some good stuff on the actual war, and George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
Just cast a wide net and be prepared to be a bit fussy about what you buy hook and sinker.
I think every country does that in some ways for their own purposes. I know mine does.
Duck Rodgers
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I don't know. I think it might be worthwhile to go textbook heavy for a few months...maybe throw little Howard Zinn on top.....just get all that crap flowing in your mind....then BAM....get woken out your stupor with some truth serum from Caroll Quiqley and Cleon Skousen.
man. . . . . yah got no mercy do ya. . . ..