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Matt Thomas - Matty Ice

Xthren said:


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More than half of those were not really on him as a primary defender. Broken plays and missed assignments elsewhere left him in no-man's land a few times as well. Not really an indictment. Whoever made that video does not understand defensive sets in the NBA.

I am not arguing that this guy is going to be a good defender, advance stats say no. Just that this video shows few good examples of it.
 
LogGrad98 said:
More than half of those were not really on him as a primary defender. Broken plays and missed assignments elsewhere left him in no-man's land a few times as well. Not really an indictment. Whoever made that video does not understand defensive sets in the NBA.

I am not arguing that this guy is going to be a good defender, advance stats say no. Just that this video shows few good examples of it.
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Problem is many times he is put in the game the Raps when to a zone because he simply gets blown by his man in man on man sets. Even in the zone, he misses a lot of assignments. Nurse tried him a number of times before giving up on him. Gobert may shelter his inept defense, but if he wants court time, he needs to improve on the fundamentals. Sure, faster, bigger guards will cause problems, but he can become a much better defender if he focuses. One of the best defenders I played with in college just knew where to be. Guy was slow, but was great at anticipating, and took charges like a boss. That is what Thomas needs to do. I hope he does.
 
LogGrad98 said:
More than half of those were not really on him as a primary defender. Broken plays and missed assignments elsewhere left him in no-man's land a few times as well. Not really an indictment. Whoever made that video does not understand defensive sets in the NBA.

I am not arguing that this guy is going to be a good defender, advance stats say no. Just that this video shows few good examples of it.
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Sure, but some of these plays are just hilariously bad awareness. Like when Adams is thundering down the lane uncontested you have to be there to force the pass to the guy shooting low 30's on 3, not give up a wide open dunk.
 
I guess we are still firmly in the giving away future 2nd rd picks like candy mode. I would be really surprised if this guy ever sees the court other than garbage minutes. He also has a really long load time on his shot where he brings it from his belly almost every time. That becomes a big issue the more you play and teams scout you. That may be one of the reasons his percentage have dropped this year. It sucks that we could have gotten Torrey Craig for a future second and he fills a defensive need or if we are going to go for an end of bench guy that can shoot them make is Sam Merrill. I'm sure the bucks would have given him up for a future 2nd and cash.
 
sip said:
I guess we are still firmly in the giving away future 2nd rd picks like candy mode. I would be really surprised if this guy ever sees the court other than garbage minutes. He also has a really long load time on his shot where he brings it from his belly almost every time. That becomes a big issue the more you play and teams scout you. That may be one of the reasons his percentage have dropped this year.
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He's going to become Joe Ingles understudy. He will reach GOAT status by the time Ingles passes the baton.
 
gomretat said:
Agreed on this year but I think this move was done on the cheap with future potential in mind. The Jazz knew they were not going to get anyone that would break into the rotation this year without giving up someone they were not willing to part with. I really like these kind of moves because it demonstrates the logic they have about taking shots at developing people and building for the future. The best teams dont focus solely on the hear and now - same reason I like the Udoka pick. We have players on this roster getting key minutes that we picked up because we saw a fit and potential and we developed them. It is why we have a solid team right now.
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The udoka pick is fine in a vacuum. Dumb when combined with the Favs signing... the favs signing is good in a vacuum... dumb when combined with the Udoka pick.

If they wanted a guy to develop that fits a potential need in the next couple years Desmond Bane was staring them right in the ****ing face. He was the guy I stated we should pick on draft night so no hindsight was used here now that Bane is one of the best shooters in the league as a rookie.

Even if Udoka is really good he will not get on the floor until Favs is either hurt or traded. He also benefitted tremendously from college rules because there is no defensive three seconds. He may be good and I think he will be a solid backup someday but Alex Len is a solid backup too and was available for the minimum. I have more hope for Udoka than I ever did for TB but we won't find anything out about him for 2-3 years which is not ideal or smart imo.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Galaxy Brain Thought:

The Jazz signed Thomas so Niang would re-sign at a discount rather than chasing a minor pay raise from someone else.
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the giddy quotes from Georges today lead me to believe that this galaxy brain thought may have some legs.

Next year the second unit Niang- Thomas DHO with Matty hitting threes or dumping to Niang will be the most efficient play in basketball.
 
Because basketball players are human there is an element of adding a little excitement that comes with a small addition... maybe a small boost in enthusiasm will be part of the benefit of doing this now. Hanging with Georges and Matty Ice seems like a good time.
 
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