Messina vs. Blatt. This Friday.

[homeytennis]

@ Enes: Looks like Messina is incredibly tactful and able to see things for what they are.

Blatt bead Messina for the Euroleague Championship.

 

[VINYLONE]

Blatt bead Messina for the Euroleague Championship.

Your point?

 

[homeytennis]

Since the game went into OT it would appear to me that both coaches are in a dead heat.

 

[ema]

@ Enes: Looks like Messina is incredibly tactful and able to see things for what they are.

I like his self-image. Some might say he talks too negative/criticizing towards himself and his team but it's just because he doesn't like losing and he's never known for talking to please everyone. His principle is balance and finding the "best right" out of all the right things, on the court and off the court.

 

[idiot]

Thanks for the insight, Enes CTYA!

 

[Stifle Tower]

Thanks for the insight, Enes CTYA!

Hear, hear!
The insights of our international members such as ECTYA are invaluable. I feel we are much better informed than a lot in terms of international players and now coaches. So a big thanks to all our non-US board members! Please keep posting your unique info and perspectives.

 

[Stifle Tower]

BTW, do any of you know how much Blatt and Messina are getting paid?

 

[ema]

Thanks for the insight, Enes CTYA!

You're welcome, any time. Not really, only when I have the time.

Hear, hear!
The insights of our international members such as ECTYA are invaluable. I feel we are much better informed than a lot in terms of international players and now coaches. So a big thanks to all our non-US board members! Please keep posting your unique info and perspectives.

Thanks a lot for the nice words, we are trying our best to misinform you, dear American friends, and spread false information for our evil goals.

BTW, do any of you know how much Blatt and Messina are getting paid?

I couldn't find a definite info about Blatt, but I remember he had contract issues with Aris before he went to Maccabi, so Maccabi had to pay also the buy-out of Blatt and in return he discounted from his salary, it should be around $500K-$600k per year at max.

I remember Messina signing a $1M per year deal with CSKA but keep in mind that taxes are not heavy in Europe as in the NBA so they lose much less than half of it to the taxes.

As for the biggest salary among the European coaches, it's $1.85M per year deal of Obradovic. So the numbers are nowhere near the salaries of the NBA coaches actually.

 

[Stifle Tower]

You're welcome, any time. Not really, only when I have the time.






Thanks a lot for the nice words, we are trying our best to misinform you, dear American friends, and spread false information for our evil goals.



I couldn't find a definite info about Blatt, but I remember he had contract issues with Aris before he went to Maccabi, so Maccabi had to pay also the buy-out of Blatt and in return he discounted from his salary, it should be around $500K-$600k per year at max.

I remember Messina signing a $1M per year deal with CSKA but keep in mind that taxes are not heavy in Europe as in the NBA so they lose much less than half of it to the taxes.

As for the biggest salary among the European coaches, it's $1.85M per year deal of Obradovic. So the numbers are nowhere near the salaries of the NBA coaches actually.

Thanks. And it is not the NBA that taxes salaries. That would be the federal and state governments. Taxes can be high in certain states, but no one lives in a 50% tax area. Based on my experience with non-US employees working in int'l locations for my previous employer, I'd say citizens of France and other countries had a bigger chunk of their paychecks lost to taxes than U.S. employees.

In any case, the salaries for Euro coaches are considerably less than what they would make in the U.S. So there would be an incentive to come over, even if a deal didn't approach what Kerr or SVG were given.

 

[VINYLONE]

Hear, hear!
The insights of our international members such as ECTYA are invaluable. I feel we are much better informed than a lot in terms of international players and now coaches. So a big thanks to all our non-US board members! Please keep posting your unique info and perspectives.

Well said. The larger diversity of posters the better as far as I'm concerned. I also love my Muslim brothers and sisters.


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[ema]

Thanks. And it is not the NBA that taxes salaries. That would be the federal and state governments. Taxes can be high in certain states, but no one lives in a 50% tax area. Based on my experience with non-US employees working in int'l locations for my previous employer, I'd say citizens of France and other countries had a bigger chunk of their paychecks lost to taxes than U.S. employees.

Yep, I meant the government taxes of course. But you may be right, in certain European countries it gets worse than U.S. Spain for instance. There were huge controversies over sports taxes a few years ago because of the financial crises there, it was pretty dense.

In any case, the salaries for Euro coaches are considerably less than what they would make in the U.S. So there would be an incentive to come over, even if a deal didn't approach what Kerr or SVG were given.

No doubt about it. The only way they would cost near of SVG or Kerr would be because of a stupid bidding race between multiple teams, which is still unlikely.

So actually, going the Euro coach route would also make more sense financially to the Jazz owners. A native coach most probably could cost much more than Messina or Blatt.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Yep, I meant the government taxes of course. But you may be right, in certain European countries it gets worse than U.S. Spain for instance. There were huge controversies over sports taxes a few years ago because of the financial crises there, it was pretty dense.


No doubt about it. The only way they would cost near of SVG or Kerr would be because of a stupid bidding race between multiple teams, which is still unlikely.

So actually, going the Euro coach route would also make more sense financially to the Jazz owners. A native coach most probably could cost much more than Messina or Blatt.

France has an effective tax rate of 40%+ IIRC.