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homeytennis

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I noticed that of the 15 players the Jazz finished the season with 5 were undrafted free agents and two were second round picks (Evans and Jarrett). Might be time to bring the youngsters we draft and give them their head.
 
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homeytennis said:
I noticed that of the 15 players the Jazz finished the season with 5 were undrafted free agents and two were second round picks (Evans and Jarrett). Might be time to bring the youngsters we draft and give them their head.
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Uh

Do what now?
 
homeytennis said:
I noticed that of the 15 players the Jazz finished the season with 5 were undrafted free agents and two were second round picks (Evans and Jarrett). Might be time to bring the youngsters we draft and give them their head.
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Do you even realize how ironic this post is coming from you homey? (if I understand what you are trying to say that is)
 
homeytennis said:
I noticed that of the 15 players the Jazz finished the season with 5 were undrafted free agents and two were second round picks (Evans and Jarrett.
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Jazz started last season with Gobert (27), Favors (3), Hayward (10), Burks (12), Hood (23), Burke (9), Booker (23) and Kanter (3). Swap Kanter with whoever they draft in the lottery this year, plus hopefully add a free agent. 2nd round picks aren't always bad - Draymond Green, Danny Green and Khris Middleton would all be welcome additions. It's about talent, not draft position. For cost, I'd rather have Jingles (undrafted)over Marvin Williams (2) on our roster.

There's definitely room to upgrade the end of the bench, but the really important part of roster building is getting the top 8-9 guys you can for your playoff rotation. That should be the focus. Jazz top 6 are pretty damn good, young and getting better every day.
 
Nicely done, Mr. tennis. Very convoluted, but I think I got it.

Here's a wink from me to you: -wink-
 
LazyD said:
Nicely done, Mr. tennis. Very convoluted, but I think I got it.

Here's a wink from me to you: -wink-
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I know I'm the king of the DLeague players but if you have a team of undrafted guys vs. drafted guys and high draft picks the undrafted guys shouldn't stand a chance but sometimes they do OK. It just seems to me the Jazz have an opportunity to improve things. I don't think Cooley is an NBA player. Chris Johnson tries hard and I love JIngles. But I think the Jazz have an opportunity to add three solid players and whatever else they can pick up in free agency. Heck they may be able to get a solid player too in a trade for some or all of these undrafted free agents. My $.02.
 
homeytennis said:
I know I'm the king of the DLeague players but if you have a team of undrafted guys vs. drafted guys and high draft picks the undrafted guys shouldn't stand a chance but sometimes they do OK. It just seems to me the Jazz have an opportunity to improve things. I don't think Cooley is an NBA player. Chris Johnson tries hard and I love JIngles. But I think the Jazz have an opportunity to add three solid players and whatever else they can pick up in free agency. Heck they may be able to get a solid player too in a trade for some or all of these undrafted free agents. My $.02.
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Damn, I gave you too much credit.
 
homeytennis said:
I know I'm the king of the DLeague players but if you have a team of undrafted guys vs. drafted guys and high draft picks the undrafted guys shouldn't stand a chance but sometimes they do OK. It just seems to me the Jazz have an opportunity to improve things. I don't think Cooley is an NBA player. Chris Johnson tries hard and I love JIngles. But I think the Jazz have an opportunity to add three solid players and whatever else they can pick up in free agency. Heck they may be able to get a solid player too in a trade for some or all of these undrafted free agents. My $.02.
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Jingles sticks. I don't see him leaving tbh. Cotton too.

Jazz can easily upgrade over Cooley, Jarrett, Johnson and Evans. Evans might stay as an end of bench guy. They could upgrade over Millsap too, but I think his value vs. contract keeps him around also. Could try to upgrade over Burke for PG behind Exum. Depends on who they can get and how they want the roster set up.
 
I didn't realize draft position was the end all be all of talent. Maybe we should trade for Greg Oden, And Wesley Johnson. I'm sure they can be had for Millsap, Evans, Ingles and Cotton.
 
Clicked in this thread thinking you were addressing upgrading the talent of players you discuss.
 
Ellis269 said:
There's definitely room to upgrade the end of the bench, but the really important part of roster building is getting the top 8-9 guys you can for your playoff rotation. That should be the focus. Jazz top 6 are pretty damn good, young and getting better every day.
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This!
Jazz need to find their 8 and try to keep them in the fold, then bring in vet role players and use their picks to shore up or replace as needed. I think Utah has six of those 8-9 already in Gobert, Favors, Hayward, Hood, Exum and Burks. Alec is probably the most expendable out of that group and could be dealt later on if money becomes a problem.

In the next group we have Booker, Burke and our #12 pick (I hope). Jazz could certainly upgrade at the 3rd big and backup PG positions. And then we get into the deep bench with players like Ingles, Millsap, Cotton, etc. You expect churn at the back-end of the roster (10-15).

Also need to plan for the unexpected such as bad injuries or a player deciding to leave or making himself too expensive to retain (like Hayward demanding $25M+).

But agree with Ellis...we have 6 who already are - or have shown the potential to be - "pretty damn good." It's tough to be patient, but I think the Jazz are better served by letting this roster develop another year together with minimal change and then decide if trades are necessary.
 
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