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Millsap's future impacts Jazz draft strategy

Favors Flave said:
Maybe I don't quite understand what your saying but Al averaged 19 points, thats not below league average. I hope Big Al really improves his passing and then comes back next year, is an all star and cant wait for the Big Al supporters to jump on the band wagon b/c it seems I'm the only one who thinks he is good
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It took a ton of possessions for him to get those points. Big Al's TS% was below league average. CJ Miles and Earl Watson were the only Jazz regulars with a lower TS% than Big Al. And they at least can occasionally make plays other than throwing the ball at the rim with the ball in their hands.
 
GVC said:
It took a ton of possessions for him to get those points. Big Al's TS% was below league average. CJ Miles and Earl Watson were the only Jazz regulars with a lower TS% than Big Al. And they at least can occasionally make plays other than throwing the ball at the rim with the ball in their hands.
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If you were Big Al, who would you honestly trust to pass the ball to with the lineup that was mainly in until the end of the year
PG- Watson- Not much of a threat (Harris was injured most of the time)
SG- Bell- Are you kidding, I wouldn't trust him
SF- Ak- Never trust him
PF- Millsap- I would trust him but he never really made himself available

Also, don't know if you noticed but when you pass the ball to Big Al everyone stood around. Corbin always was yelling move but everyone would just stand. That's not Big Al's fault. I really believe when Hayward and Favors were in, the offense was much better. Hayward offered a shooter and Favors got numerous dunks off passes from Big Al either from the high post or off a double team
 
GVC said:
Al Jefferson's scoring ability is below league average. And, he can't make useful passes out of the post. Why people continue to repeat this garbage, I don't understand. I'd post the stats, but I've already done so far too many times.

Al Jeff should head to the bench if there's a log jam. The Jazz are much better off with a frontcourt of Favors-Millsap than anything including Big Al. I'm still hopeful Millsap comes back after the summer ready to play the 3.
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I've seen those numbers, and I think it's neat that you're basing 100% of your argument off of them, but I don't think they tell the whole story.

I expected Big Al to have a somewhat inefficient year during his 1st season in Utah. Couple that with the fact that he lost his HC and Point Guard in the process and I'm not suprised at all by those numbers.

I still think he's trending upwards. He's one more season away from that nasty knee injury, and he set career high marks in assists and blocks while also achieving a career low in turnovers last season.
 
jazzman12 said:
I've seen those numbers, and I think it's neat that you're basing 100% of your argument off of them, but I don't think they tell the whole story.

I expected Big Al to have a somewhat inefficient year during his 1st season in Utah. Couple that with the fact that he lost his HC and Point Guard in the process and I'm not suprised at all by those numbers.

I still think he's trending upwards. He's one more season away from that nasty knee injury, and he set career high marks in assists and blocks while also achieving a career low in turnovers last season.
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Very true. This year hell be even more familiar with the Jazz system. Near the end of the season we saw him improving on all fronts (blocks, assists, scoring, leadership) with only help-defense/rotational defense still being something that didnt have any noticable improvement. However, we all know how well the paint was defended when there was a combination of Al and Favors, or sometimes even Al and Fes (first half of the 3rd lakers game). He seems to be taking initiative to rally up the team, work out, improve and looks forward to making the playoffs in the coming years. Im excited for this next season and REALLY hope the lockour doesnt pose any huge problems.
 
jazzman12 said:
I've seen those numbers, and I think it's neat that you're basing 100% of your argument off of them, but I don't think they tell the whole story.

I expected Big Al to have a somewhat inefficient year during his 1st season in Utah. Couple that with the fact that he lost his HC and Point Guard in the process and I'm not suprised at all by those numbers.

I still think he's trending upwards. He's one more season away from that nasty knee injury, and he set career high marks in assists and blocks while also achieving a career low in turnovers last season.
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For sure. I think it was pretty obvious when he started the season he had a ton of bad habits. I think he showed progress as the season went on. I expect him to average 20 and 10 this upcoming year while doing it efficiently and for the team to challenge for a fringe playoff seeding. He will, at the very least, raise his trade value.
 
JohnStockalypse said:
That "top talent" of Kanter has never been tested against the top US players in any meaningful way. That scares the crap out of me.
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its been tested against future US top players last year. And it will be tested this year against the current top players. Be patient
 
Jefferson took quite a few games to get comfortable with the Jazz system and teammates, but after the all-star break he looked increasingly comfortable and his consistancy greatly improved. That wasobvious. I would be very surprised if he were traded or moved to the bench.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Using Millsap to move up to grab Williams makes sense for Utah for the same reason it doesn't make sense for Minnesota: We'd be making room for Williams while Millsap just logjams the 3/4 for Minnesota already.

I would consider moving Millsap to get Irving though. However, again, I don't know why Cleveland does that if they give a **** about Hickson or Jamison.

I really like Irving. He seems the most likely to be a franchise-player in this draft and that's why he's generally viewed as the #1 pick. I really like Millsap too and would hate to part with him, that's how much I like Irving.
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There is no way I do this. I am not as high on Irving as you are. Again, if you look at Irving's #'s and Knight's, they are basically identical. The only difference is shooting %'s, but Irving's are inflated due to the lack in competition he faced. I do think Irving is better than Knight, but not giving up Millsap better.
 
green said:
There is no way I do this. I am not as high on Irving as you are.
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I didn't know that.

But just to be sure I didn't know that, do you want to give us a statistical comparison that proves the point you're trying argue against for the 20th time? Make sure you pretend that shooting percentages don't matter, that's key.
 
That's funny. You are witty. Prove me wrong. And don't say you've seen Irving. He played a handful of games at full strength. Nobody has seen Irving. I don't even think he has done any workouts yet. All we have is meager stats on him and they are strikingly identical to Knight's. Prove me wrong.
 
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