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Mitt Romney wins NH straw poll

Millsapa said:
I think it is all about name recognition for this Romney win.
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So the 23rd straw poll win is the crucial tipping point for visibility?

His weakness is that he signed the mandatory health insurance law in Mass. which is too much like Obamacare, but he could get around that by supporting repeal.

He isn't a flip-flopper as the leftist media suggests.
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So he should flip-flop now?

BTW: This is an example of one of Romney's strengths in my mind. He's a relative throwback to the heady days of 1994 when "Obamacare" was the Republican counterproposal to "Hillarycare." Today's conservatives would call the Gingrich-led "Contract with America" conservatives pinkos.

If Romney were to win the nomination I think Obama would be reluctant to bring up the weird religion thing because of his own issues with religion.
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I don't think Dems have a recent electoral history of stoking religious fervor regardless of the candidate they put up? Who was going to beat the Bible for the Dems? Walter Mondale? Jimmy Carter is the last Dem presidential candidate that I can think of that was what I would describe as sincerely religious.


The unfortunate thing is that Republican primary process will always elect the worst possible candidate because the initial primary states are all liberal.
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Wha?

Iowa is a liberal state? Nevada? South Carolina?

I mean, I get New Hampshire. But I hardly consider cornfed midwesterners, southerners, and the state with the most libertarian policies in the country to be the picture of liberalism.
 
Sirkickyass said:
So the 23rd straw poll win is the crucial tipping point for visibility?

So he should flip-flop now?

I don't think Dems have a recent electoral history of stoking religious fervor regardless of the candidate they put up? Who was going to beat the Bible for the Dems? Walter Mondale? Jimmy Carter is the last Dem presidential candidate that I can think of that was what I would describe as sincerely religious.
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Nah, "this" and all polls farther than 2 years out.
Wanting to repeal Federally mandated health insurance (with all the other garbage included) is not a flip-flop on signing state mandated health insurance into law.
Yes, Obama has "sincerity" issues on religion. I found it amusing that after the recent poll about Americans being unsure of Obama's religious affiliation he suddenly went to church after months of Sunday golf trips.
 
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Millsapa said:
Nah, "this" and all polls farther than 2 years out.
Wanting to repeal Federally mandated health care (with all the other garbage included) is not a flip-flop on signing state mandated health care into law.
Yes, Obama has "sincerity" issues on religion. I found it amusing that after the recent poll about Americans being unsure of Obama's religious affiliation he suddenly went to church after months of Sunday golf trips.
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I agree. Even if the issues have points in common it is highly unlikely the line items are identical. In that case I would hope the candidate can look at them both objectively and make a decision, even if it does seem contradictory.

Along the lines of flip-flopping I think it is funny how often "flip-flop" gets thrown around when almost every politician that gets elected does exactly that on points that got them elected, all to satisfy special-interest groups.

It is the sign of a weak-minded individual who cannot take into account new information, or grow enough as a person to change their opinion on something. Sometimes it really is a flip-flop (see video), but to discount true changes in opinion as "flip-flopping" is puerile. I want a candidate grown up enough to say "I thought this way before, then I learned something so I changed my mind and now think this way".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me_E5Kl6EPc
 
Anonymous neg rep giver said:
Thread: Mitt Romney wins NH...

Sarcasm in the first post, mebbe?
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Coward. Sign your damn neg reps you spineless cowards.

PS: I don't buy the sarcasm **** for one second. Somebody just got caught being an idiot and doesn't know how to deal with it.
 
SOURCE

Huntsman Said to Be Planning to Resign as Ambassador
By Hans Nichols - Jan 31, 2011

Jon Huntsman, the U.S. ambassador to China, has told the Obama administration he plans to resign, an administration official said, a sign the former Utah governor may bid for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.

Obama has been informed that Huntsman intends to leave in May, according to the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Huntsman, 50, a Republican, was in his second term as Utah governor when President Barack Obama nominated him to be ambassador on May 16, 2009. He speaks Mandarin Chinese and was ambassador to Singapore under former President George H.W. Bush.

Huntsman’s plan to resign was reported earlier by the Washington Post.

Before being named ambassador by Obama, Huntsman was the campaign co-chairman of the president’s opponent in the 2008 election, Republican Senator John McCain. Immediately after the election, he was cited as a potential contender for his party’s nomination in 2012.

When Chinese President Hu Jintao was in Washington on Jan. 19, Obama was asked about a potential challenge from Huntsman and joked that, “I’m sure that him having worked so well with me will be a great asset in any Republican primary.”

He also had praise for Huntsman’s service as ambassador, saying it demonstrated that “he and I believe that partisanship ends at the water’s edge.”

In an interview with Newsweek magazine published Jan. 1, Huntsman declined to comment on whether he might run for president in 2012, while saying, “I think we may have one final run left in our bones.”
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No way Palin wins. I don't believe Romney can win either. The Mormon issue will come up. Huckabee brought it up last time. Romney and Huckabee can't stand each other so you know their will be sparks. Personally, I don't think there is any candidate out there that can beat Obama unless the economy continues to tank.

The Republicans have done a poor job of finding a moderate Republican who can draw in the conservative Democrats and Independents. I am an Independent and there is no one on the Republican side that I would consider giving my vote to because in the end I think the EV run the Republican party.
 
NH is not a lliberal state. It is pretty much split 50/50 between Democrats and Republicans. What issue does Obama have with Religion? The only one who seems to have an issue with Obama's religion are the Tea Baggers who keep calling him a Muslim. I think Huntsman would be a very tough candidate if he were on the Republican ticket simply because of his reputation. I just don't see the name recognition outside of Utah and he too will have to deal with the Mormon issue.

Who is Chris Christie?
 
I read Romney's No Apology book recently. The guy is probably the sharpest cat going in the political world, it was a good book, but he is shockingly a bigger war monger than almost anybody I've read on paper(that wasn't already an established tyrant). I knew he was a big defense guy, but he is just in love with that whole apparatus and policing the world. I can't possibly even entertain the thought voting for him any more. My interest in him has been waning over time, but that was the nail in the coffin. I blame his time at Harvard.

Ron Paul or bust.
 
Duck Rodgers said:
I read Romney's No Apology book recently. The guy is probably the sharpest cat going in the political world, it was a good book, but he is shockingly a bigger war monger than almost anybody I've read on paper(that wasn't already an established tyrant). I knew he was a big defense guy, but he is just in love with that whole apparatus and policing the world. I can't possibly even entertain the thought voting for him any more. My interest in him has been waning over time, but that was the nail in the coffin. I blame his time at Harvard.

Ron Paul or bust.
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That's weird.
 
cowhide said:
NH is not a lliberal state. It is pretty much split 50/50 between Democrats and Republicans. What issue does Obama have with Religion? The only one who seems to have an issue with Obama's religion are the Tea Baggers who keep calling him a Muslim. I think Huntsman would be a very tough candidate if he were on the Republican ticket simply because of his reputation. I just don't see the name recognition outside of Utah and he too will have to deal with the Mormon issue.

Who is Chris Christie?
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When is the last time NH gave their electoral votes to a Republican president?
Issues with religion? Rev. Wright
Chris Christie is governor of NJ
 
cowhide said:
No way Palin wins. I don't believe Romney can win either. The Mormon issue will come up. Huckabee brought it up last time. Romney and Huckabee can't stand each other so you know their will be sparks. Personally, I don't think there is any candidate out there that can beat Obama unless the economy continues to tank.
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Hopefully Huckleberry isn't going to run again.
Obama has been a pretty unpopular president. I don't think the general public has confidence in him. I'd be surprised if they voted for him again. He may even face serious challenge in the Dem primary.
 
Duck Rodgers said:
I read Romney's No Apology book recently. The guy is probably the sharpest cat going in the political world, it was a good book, but he is shockingly a bigger war monger than almost anybody I've read on paper(that wasn't already an established tyrant). I knew he was a big defense guy, but he is just in love with that whole apparatus and policing the world. I can't possibly even entertain the thought voting for him any more. My interest in him has been waning over time, but that was the nail in the coffin. I blame his time at Harvard.

Ron Paul or bust.
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Romney means well, but he's been a protege of George Bush for too long. I also blame his time at Harvard, and indeed Ron Paul is the one man in US presidential politics who actually understands why the founding fathers of this country did not believe they should/could make a world campaign for their newly-won form of government. They understood that unless people want it bad enough for themselves, and in sufficient numbers to prevail, liberty cannot be sustained.

A city set upon a hill cannot be hid. The right way for the American core values to prevail is by us remembering their value and keeping them at work, and just being an example of it that will make tyrants world wide think twice.
 
Millsapa said:
Hopefully Huckleberry isn't going to run again.
Obama has been a pretty unpopular president. I don't think the general public has confidence in him. I'd be surprised if they voted for him again. He may even face serious challenge in the Dem primary.
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I'll be surprized if Hillary doesn't announce her candidacy. Or maybe even Bill. Bill will argue the law the same way Jerry Brown did. It's only a law for the other guys.
 
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