Agreed. I imagine he'll be blackballed from the league regardless of a ban.
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Agreed. I imagine he'll be blackballed from the league regardless of a ban.
I hope so. And for those of you thinking I wouldn't have that stance if it was my team. Well if Fox (Broncos head coach) did that then I would want him banned for life as well.
1/2 the league would probably be banned.
If they get busted advocating and encouraging the injuring of other players/personnel then so be it. I am not talking about getting syked up and asking for big hits. I am talking about the quotes on this guy. That type of crap has no place int he NFL, none.
7StraightIsGreat
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Cyrone and Trout have their head up their asses (sorry fellas).
Telling your players to go for a guys ACL, or to go at the head of a player who has suffered past concussions is chicken ****, plain and simple. Cyrone, you're "half the league is doing it" argument is weak sauce. Regardless of how many players/coaches act like Greg Williams, it doesn't make it right. Not only that, but the we now know the Saints had been under investigation for quite some time and had been warned to knock it off. They basically gave the big **** You to the NFL.
Telling guys to go after ACL's or intentionally sprain ankles is not "part of the game" no matter how you slice it.
Telling your players to go for a guys ACL, or to go at the head of a player who has suffered past concussions is chicken ****, plain and simple. Cyrone, you're "half the league is doing it" argument is weak sauce. Regardless of how many players/coaches act like Greg Williams, it doesn't make it right. Not only that, but the we now know the Saints had been under investigation for quite some time and had been warned to knock it off. They basically gave the big **** You to the NFL.
Telling guys to go after ACL's or intentionally sprain ankles is not "part of the game" no matter how you slice it.
Thee Jazz Fan
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The only problem I have is saying let's take out Crabtree's ACL. The rest sounds like tuff guy speech to me. Best part is the 49ers ended up taking out one of their players. Is it just me or does Greg Williams suffer from little man syndrome.
How many times have you heard a coach yell something along the lines of "Go out and kill them"? Do you think that means "Hit them hard, but not to hard not injure them!" or "Watch out, don't get near that guy's knees, he has a history of ACL problems!". If a player has a weakness, you are going to try and exploit it. If a RB has a bad hand, you are going to do everything to hit that hand.
I do have a problem with purposely trying to twist ankles, and just the overall creepy tone of William's speech. No wonder why they lost, that speech sounded about as inspiring as a Ron Paul speech.
I do have a problem with purposely trying to twist ankles, and just the overall creepy tone of William's speech. No wonder why they lost, that speech sounded about as inspiring as a Ron Paul speech.
Pizza The Hut
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Come on guys, please, please show your football knowledge. It's Gregg.
Weak, weak, weak. He was talking about intentionally trying to injure players. You are trying to argue for hard hits. No one here disputes that. But this guy was clearly asking/demanding something else.
Stop comparing the two as you know that is BS.
Hard hits = injuries.
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You also have to combined these quotes with the rest of the pieces of the investigation. Also Cyrone if he would've said go out and kill them, murder them and other over the top euphemisms (knowing not to take him literal) is TOTALLY different then specifically saying take out an ACL or saying keep hitting him in the head while in the pile everybody hit him in the head. Especially how concussion sensitive the NFL is right now even more on QB's (which they're starting to be overprotected but that is another subject).
When this first broke months ago I thought of it is being blown out of proportion but because they're stupid enough to get caught they'll get in some trouble. But the little bits and pieces we are getting are worse than I thought they'd be and being told to stop few awhile and being under investigation/being watched for awhile means they knew they should cool it and didn't.
For Cyrone's benefit let's pretend every NFL team is this bad despite none of them being investigated like NO is and despite no real proof of it. If everyone did it the Saints are the only ones stupid enough to be caught and if everyone is doing it the NFL knows it and doesn't care but they have an image to protect so guess what your going to get punished and made an example of. That is a huge jump to make to believe all that, just saying.
When this first broke months ago I thought of it is being blown out of proportion but because they're stupid enough to get caught they'll get in some trouble. But the little bits and pieces we are getting are worse than I thought they'd be and being told to stop few awhile and being under investigation/being watched for awhile means they knew they should cool it and didn't.
For Cyrone's benefit let's pretend every NFL team is this bad despite none of them being investigated like NO is and despite no real proof of it. If everyone did it the Saints are the only ones stupid enough to be caught and if everyone is doing it the NFL knows it and doesn't care but they have an image to protect so guess what your going to get punished and made an example of. That is a huge jump to make to believe all that, just saying.
I wouldn't say "stupid enough to get caught". They obviously had a rat in the bunch, I'm pretty sure every coach would watch what they say if they knew they were being recorded. Williams was illegally voice recorded for that video.