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'More-Fair-Than-ESPN' Article by Yahoo's Adrian Wojnarowski

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As snapshot framings go, the easy thing is to turn Deron Williams(notes) into the belligerent All-Star responsible for running a legend out of his job, running an old farmer back to his tractor. Things had grown worse and worse between them, and reached a loud and contentious ending on Wednesday night in the halftime locker room of the Utah Jazz.

Jerry Sloan had something of an epiphany in a shouting match that some Jazz feared could get physical: He was too old for this, too tired. He thrived on this kind of confrontation, about how it enhanced his John Wayne image in the locker room. Well, it wore him out, too. He would’ve retired a long time ago without Williams. He’s the franchise guard the Jazz forever had, but it was just that Carlos Boozer(notes) was never the Karl Malone to Williams’ John Stockton.

Sloan is 68, tired and done for good now. The Jazz no longer contend for championships and this has been excruciating for Williams. He’s a winner. He cares deeply. Sometimes, he’s gone too far this season. He hasn’t been blameless. Yes, Williams took a lot out of Sloan, but this is the price of business in the NBA. Great players challenge great coaches every day. God bless Jerry Sloan, because he understood there was nothing left but a slow, sad spiral for the Jazz.

He never changed, but everything else did. As much as this was a blessing for him, it was a curse too.

“The player isn’t always wrong,” one respected GM said Thursday.

No one wants to hear that with Sloan, one of the greatest ever, but no one thinks stars are dying to play for him anymore. Everyone respects, admires Sloan, and has a hard time thinking about an NBA without him. Yet, it is hard to coach without a partnership with your best players, and Sloan hasn’t had that in a long, long time. Everyone can make Williams the scapegoat because of some ideal that Sloan represents – and he does represent the best ideals of basketball.

Yet, this is an unmerciful sport where talent trumps everything, where the best players always beat the best coaches. He’s lost most of his star players, and eventually Williams will leave the Jazz in 2012 the way small-market stars are leaving everywhere else. They’ve been a model franchise, disciplined in drafts and trades, but they’re no longer a contender. This ate at Williams, and it made for a combustible environment in Salt Lake City.

“People need to leave D-Will the [expletive] alone on this,” Kobe Bryant(notes) told Yahoo! Sports on Thursday night. Bryant and Williams have competed in the Western Conference for years and won an Olympic gold medal together for USA Basketball at the 2008 Beijing Games. “Leave him alone. He doesn’t deserve to be at the front of this. That’s horse…. He’s a great competitor. He works his butt off. He’s always been a great leader. He’s clutch, performs under pressure. Enjoy the 23 great years that Jerry Sloan gave them, but don’t put this on Deron Williams.”

To sell the nobility of how Sloan never changed, never deviated goes two ways. The core principles of fundamental, physical team basketball made the Jazz unique, but there was a price to be paid, too. How much more could a different coach have gotten out of Andrei Kirilenko(notes) when the fragility of his emotional status turned his career sideways? Sloan confessed: He hadn’t a clue how to handle a player weeping on the bench. Now, everyone can see: Good for him. Why should he bother? Well, the Jazz invested $86 million into Kirilenko, and the coach’s job is to get the most out of him. It’s a reasonable expectation.

Sloan’s a forever figure in NBA history, but nothing’s forever in basketball. Williams has watched one talented player after another leave the Jazz – for free agency, for more money and, yes, to leave the unbending coach. Sloan insisted himself: He’s been confronting players for decades, but it says as much about him as it does Williams that he could no longer hold his own with a tough-minded, tenacious star.

Everyone starts with the inmates-run-the-asylum hysteria now, but the players aren’t prisoners, the coaches aren’t wardens and the relationships between Sloan and his stars have always been complex. Sloan never changed, but the times did. Players are different now. Maybe he isn’t, but coaches and general managers are different too. Values have changed. Blame the players all you want, but there’s as much petulance and selfishness in the coaching profession as there is in the players.

Sloan was always insulated, and never had to deal with the realities that coaches do. He didn’t take the calls of player agents or take meetings with them. He always had the support of late owner Larry Miller, but Miller’s son, Greg, has never had the passion for basketball his father did. Larry could get between Malone and Sloan, get things smoothed over.

“Players know in a second when the coach is in trouble,” Sloan told me in December 2008. “Lose three or four games, and everybody says, ‘Well, the coach isn’t doing this or doing that.’ And right away the player runs to his agent. Their agent tells them, ‘Well, I wouldn’t let myself get injured in that situation. I wouldn’t do anything to get me hurt until the next coach comes in.’

“Agents know when a guy is going to get fired. They know it better than coaches. But that doesn’t work too well here. You have to call me and see if I’m ready to go. And they don’t call me.”

Finally, Sloan was prepared to go, and it ended the way it probably was always going to end with him: Emotional, raw and without formal farewell.

Williams’ frustration has been with management and the coach. Lately, he’s watched more talent leave than talent arrive. He has tremendous character, a will to win that stands shoulder-to-shoulder with Sloan. He’s one of the two or three best point guards in the world, and he had an idea of expanding the playbook, making the rotations less predictable and never could make that resonate with Sloan.

As a younger man, Sloan would wage battle with Malone, too. They were famous for going back and forth, but those were championship contenders and there was always a belief they could win a title together. That’s gone now. The Jazz are just one more mid-market team good enough to make the playoffs but unlikely to advance.

Williams is so much like Sloan: tough, proud, professional and caring deeply about winning. Around Team USA, Williams had always been a favorite of officials and coachers for his maturity. When peers LeBron James(notes), Carmelo Anthony(notes) and Chris Paul(notes) were younger, behaved immaturely and acted like followers, one source says: “Deron was always the grownup. He has always been his own man.”

This doesn’t make him completely innocent this season, but it makes him like most star players. Sloan chased a championship for a long time, reached the NBA Finals twice, but he’s no longer close and the Jazz are moving further away. Yes, Sloan was tired of fighting with Williams, wanted it to stop and did what he had to do: He walked away. Yet, Sloan wouldn’t leave midseason with a contender in his locker room. Never. This was just another one-and-done playoff team playing out the regular season in the Western Conference, and the timing was right for an old farmer to climb back onto his tractor.

Jerry Sloan goes home now, but there’s no blood on Deron Williams’ hands. The world had changed around Sloan, and that was no fault of one player. In that moment on Wednesday night in the locker room, it hit Sloan: There’s nothing left to chase with these Jazz, nothing left worth fighting for in the NBA.
 
Great find. The part about Wiiliams and Sloan being similar is right on. The argument of who is replaceable Sloan vs. Williams is outdated. 1995-2000 Jerry Sloan is irreplacable, the peak of his performance. Its too early to tell with Deron if that point is gone or still yet to come.
 
Jerry Sloan had something of an epiphany in a shouting match that some Jazz feared could get physical: He was too old for this, too tired. He thrived on this kind of confrontation, about how it enhanced his John Wayne image in the locker room. Well, it wore him out, too. He would’ve retired a long time ago without Williams. He’s the franchise guard the Jazz forever had, but it was just that Carlos Boozer(notes) was never the Karl Malone to Williams’ John Stockton.

Wow did he ever sum that up succinctly and dead on.

Sloan was always insulated, and never had to deal with the realities that coaches do. He didn’t take the calls of player agents or take meetings with them. He always had the support of late owner Larry Miller, but Miller’s son, Greg, has never had the passion for basketball his father did. Larry could get between Malone and Sloan, get things smoothed over.

“Players know in a second when the coach is in trouble,” Sloan told me in December 2008. “Lose three or four games, and everybody says, ‘Well, the coach isn’t doing this or doing that.’ And right away the player runs to his agent. Their agent tells them, ‘Well, I wouldn’t let myself get injured in that situation. I wouldn’t do anything to get me hurt until the next coach comes in.’

“Agents know when a guy is going to get fired. They know it better than coaches. But that doesn’t work too well here. You have to call me and see if I’m ready to go. And they don’t call me.”

That is one reason we were successful for so long, and I think the Greg Miller factor is something we have not really considered. As a pure business man with no real passion for basketball (he is not at every game like his dad was, that tells you something) he is more concerned about the bottom line. Maybe Greg took sides, recognizing that Deron is the bigger draw and Sloan was due to retire soon anyway, so he stuck with the long-term prospect, and that showed Jerry that times were a-changin'. I think that is likely.

Jerry Sloan goes home now, but there’s no blood on Deron Williams’ hands. The world had changed around Sloan, and that was no fault of one player. In that moment on Wednesday night in the locker room, it hit Sloan: There’s nothing left to chase with these Jazz, nothing left worth fighting for in the NBA.

Despite the sappy and overly melo-dramatic note there is probably some truth in this too.

Decent article. Doesn't hold a candle still to Aldridges.

Thanks for posting OP.
 
I thought the article was just as good the as the David A. 's article. it is nice to see a few national writer's actually give some thought to the situation.
 
Good article, but disagree that DWill has no "blood on his hands." Safer to say it's not all on him.
 
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Interesting that he states it matter of factly that Deron will leave because stars leave small market teams. I don't believe that is decided yet. But if it is, and if the NBA has 'evolved' into league with no more than 6 teams where all the 'stars' flee; what does that say for the future of the NBA?
 
“People need to leave D-Will the [expletive] alone on this,” Kobe Bryant(notes) told Yahoo! Sports on Thursday night. Bryant and Williams have competed in the Western Conference for years and won an Olympic gold medal together for USA Basketball at the 2008 Beijing Games. “Leave him alone. He doesn’t deserve to be at the front of this. That’s horse…. He’s a great competitor. He works his butt off. He’s always been a great leader. He’s clutch, performs under pressure. Enjoy the 23 great years that Jerry Sloan gave them, but don’t put this on Deron Williams.”

So, in conclusion, we should keep giving Deron [expletive], he deserves to be at the front of this, he's not that great of a competitor or leader, his leadership is overrated, and it's all his fault.
 
This is not A-Woj's best work. Reads like he's a bit worried about having started the anti-Deron backlash to begin with.

Still think he's better than most.
 
The article above is full of speculation and a number of things that could never be backed up. Not sure what people think is thoughtful about it. This is my choice for best yet.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/10/AR2011021007371.html

This article brings up the key point that differentiates between the Stockton & Malone and boozer adn Williams (potentially) which is that Stock, Malone and Jerry were on the same page about winning and the plans to do so. I don't doubt Williams desired to win (I do doubt Boozer's.) Let's see if Williams becomes "unleashed..."
 
From the post... "Sloan just got tired of teaching them to grow up."

B.S. Leaving mid-season is not a grown-up maneuver. Teaching by example is most effective.
 
From the post... "Sloan just got tired of teaching them to grow up."

B.S. Leaving mid-season is not a grown-up maneuver. Teaching by example is most effective.

Sloan taught by example for 23 years. Hard to fault him for deciding it's not worth his time anymore trying to coach a bunch of overpayed, egotistical punks.
 
Hard to fault him for deciding it's not worth his time anymore trying to coach a bunch of overpayed, egotistical punks.

It's not at all hard, if you try. Sometimes, coaching style needs to adjust to talent. Unwillingness to budge is not good leadership.
 
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