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Most Likely Amnesty Clauses: Mehmet Okur

I don't know if this as been said. But it's in the Jazz's best interest to trade Okur so he can be amnestied by another team. Say for instance that the Jazz trade Okur for Hayword. Dallas waives Okur and pays him $9M instead of the money they own to Haywood and they get space to sign Chandler. The Jazz get a player they may want and keep him and amesty someone else like Raja Bell, for instance.

I haven't put much thought into this and I probably wouldn't want Haywood with the clutter the Jazz have in the frontcourt. But it was an example I thought of to express how trading Okur might be better than amnestying him out right.
 
Lion's Roar said:
I don't know if this as been said. But it's in the Jazz's best interest to trade Okur so he can be amnestied by another team. Say for instance that the Jazz trade Okur for Hayword. Dallas waives Okur and pays him $9M instead of the money they own to Haywood and they get space to sign Chandler. The Jazz get a player they may want and keep him and amesty someone else like Raja Bell, for instance.

I haven't put much thought into this and I probably wouldn't want Haywood with the clutter the Jazz have in the frontcourt. But it was an example I thought of to express how trading Okur might be better than amnestying him out right.
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Why wouldn't Dallas just amnesty Haywood? And yeah, I want no part of Haywood.
 
If they amnesty Haywood they have to pay him $40M or so. If they got Okur and amnesty him they would get the same cap space but would only have to pay $10M. So financially it would make sense. The Jazz would do the trade for competitive purposes taking the finacial hit to add a player they thought would help them out.
 
Do you have to pay their entire contact off? I thought you only had to pay that year's salary off. Some player's might be rolling cash if they get amnestied.
 
They have to pay to whole contract, all contracts are guaranteed. And the whole contract doesn't come off the books. 25% of their contract would count towards the cap.
 
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After sleepin' on this, I now realize some of you are thinkin' like a GM, where $$ is as important as talent, while others see things as a COACH, where $$ is somebody else's issue, I just need to WIN with the guys on the roster. Looking at it as a COACH, it's hard to ignore Kirilenko, who is still a good defender with his length. Can't coach that, I'm afraid, so I'd make him and Watson priorities.
And dump Bell with the amnesty thing, who really didn't help us offensively or defensively, and is totally replaceable with Hayward, Burks, and CJ, who I understand was asked to work on his SG skills in the offseason. Okur, and as a COACH I could care less how much $$ he's making, can still put up points in bunches, so I'd keep him too. Burks should be able to play as a 3rd PG if we don't bring in a D-leaguer.
PG - Harris, Watson, Burks
SG - Hayward, Burks, Miles
SF - Kirilenko, Millsap, CJ, Evans, Hayward
PF - Millsap, Favors, Evans, Kirilenko
C - Jefferson, Favors, Okur, Kanter
 
NotDeadYet said:
After sleepin' on this, I now realize some of you are thinkin' like a GM, where $$ is as important as talent, while others see things as a COACH, where $$ is somebody else's issue, I just need to WIN with the guys on the roster. Looking at it as a COACH, it's hard to ignore Kirilenko, who is still a good defender with his length. Can't coach that, I'm afraid, so I'd make him and Watson priorities.
And dump Bell with the amnesty thing, who really didn't help us offensively or defensively, and is totally replaceable with Hayward, Burks, and CJ, who I understand was asked to work on his SG skills in the offseason. Okur, and as a COACH I could care less how much $$ he's making, can still put up points in bunches, so I'd keep him too. Burks should be able to play as a 3rd PG if we don't bring in a D-leaguer.
PG - Harris, Watson, Burks
SG - Hayward, Burks, Miles
SF - Kirilenko, Millsap, CJ, Evans, Hayward
PF - Millsap, Favors, Evans, Kirilenko
C - Jefferson, Favors, Okur, Kanter
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It's too bad that neither our former COACH nor GM realized that Okur is (and was two years ago) and aging Eurocenter who was good at the three and tried hard (for someone who was playing in slow motion) but was so-so and rebounding and rather inept at controlling the paint or having a convincing inside game.

With the relative abundance of 4/5 players who possibly can do all of what Memo can do and more (i.e., play on both sides of the court in the same game), except for maybe making it rain, then I hope that this new COACH will realize--even though he is also not a GM--that Okur should play only when he's not hurting the rest of the team, unlike the former COACH, who would grant Okur 20ish or 30ish minutes per night no matter what his performance was.
 
InGameStrategy said:
It's too bad that neither our former COACH nor GM realized that Okur is (and was two years ago) and aging Eurocenter who was good at the three and tried hard (for someone who was playing in slow motion) but was so-so and rebounding and rather inept at controlling the paint or having a convincing inside game.

With the relative abundance of 4/5 players who possibly can do all of what Memo can do and more (i.e., play on both sides of the court in the same game), except for maybe making it rain, then I hope that this new COACH will realize--even though he is also not a GM--that Okur should play only when he's not hurting the rest of the team, unlike the former COACH, who would grant Okur 20ish or 30ish minutes per night no matter what his performance was.
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We get it.
 
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