Nba don't want the Jazz to win the title.

[Ron Mexico]

After we're ousted from the playoffs and lauded for our effort

Niang island will be empty. Just Wilson.

Ouch, imagine being this kind of fan when your team is the top team in the NBA so far. It sounds very depressing.

 

[LoPo]

Lebron left miami to go back to cleveland. They weren't good. He went to La. They also weren't good

Miami hadn't won a playoff series in 3 straight years prior to LBJ going there. After he went to the Finals 4 straight years, they didn't even make the playoffs the next year.

Cleveland was the worst team over the 4 years prior to LBJ going there. He won a title.

The Lakers were the worst team over the 4 years prior to LBJ going there. He won a title.

People need to redefine "superteam" in regards to LeBron.
He made a bad team respectable.
He made an average team a 2 time champ.
He made a bad team a title winner.
He made a bad team a title winner.

Nobody wins a title without help. Nobody.

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[LoPo]

The NBA needs to formalize the GLeague.

Then make the NBA Draft 3 rounds.

When any team loses an All Star in free agency, they receive a 2nd rounder from the team who signed him.

When a team signs a buyout player, they lose a 2nd rounder to the team who had to pay the buyout.


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[Handlogten's Heros]

Its kinda wild that Memphis bough out Dieng considering he signed with the Spurs... they kinda had to know that might happen since these things don't necessarily come out of nowhere and many times are understood before a guy becomes available.

Memphis is a game back of the Spurs for the 8th seed. Wonder if they are doing a stealth tank. Would think GS catches them is Steph stays healthy... Kings are still fighting for the 10th seed. Just kinda interesting.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Also crazy that the league stepped in and decided to basically run the sixers because they were tanking but OKC decides to shut down Al Horford for the year and we have heard nothing. It must be kind of embarrassing to be the Kings, Pelicans, Bulls, Wizards to see OKC openly trying to lose but still winning as much as they are.

 

[Max Porter]

LMA takes the ball out of the hands of two of the best scorers in NBA history at their peak.

They would have been much better off adding role players (snipers, wing defenders, ball movers) than adding redundant and lower efficiency scorers.

Nets were better before LMA.

I disagree because they don’t have to give him the ball unless they really want to expose someone in the post. Bojan on the Jazz got smoked like 4 times in a row from the sixers using that strategy. The more ways a team CAN beat you not HAVE to, the better the team is. He’s also a veteran that will never demand the ball. If I were the Jazz I’d take him.

 

[Max Porter]

Boston and LA created the super-team mentality back in the 70s and 80s. The 90's and early 00s were more about selfish basketball and the "star", then it got back to (non-drafted) super teams with the Gasol trade and the KG/Allen trades. Lebron just made it OK for players to be the drivers of the super-team, not general managers.

So because the league is already lopsided with super teams created by GM’s, you’re ok with making it more lopsided by the best players in the leagues also creating super teams? That’s like saying your food is already a little spicy, you might as well add a ghost pepper. If it’s already lopsided then balance it out or at least try to. Without at least the attempt for fairness you end up more like the WWF where it’s not actually real, it’s preordained.

You should never have a league where it’s almost impossible for 90% of the teams to ever win a championship no matter what they do because then those teams become totally obsolete.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

So because the league is already lopsided with super teams created by GM’s, you’re ok with making it more lopsided by the best players in the leagues also creating super teams? That’s like saying your food is already a little spicy, you might as well add a ghost pepper. If it’s already lopsided then balance it out or at least try to. Without at least the attempt for fairness you end up more like the WWF where it’s not actually real, it’s preordained.

You should never have a league where it’s almost impossible for 90% of the teams to ever win a championship no matter what they do because then those teams become totally obsolete.

I just dont get why you bitch about one so much compared to the other.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Also crazy that the league stepped in and decided to basically run the sixers because they were tanking but OKC decides to shut down Al Horford for the year and we have heard nothing. It must be kind of embarrassing to be the Kings, Pelicans, Bulls, Wizards to see OKC openly trying to lose but still winning as much as they are.

The Thunder are going to be so ****ing good 4 years from now.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Its kinda wild that Memphis bough out Dieng considering he signed with the Spurs... they kinda had to know that might happen since these things don't necessarily come out of nowhere and many times are understood before a guy becomes available.

Memphis is a game back of the Spurs for the 8th seed. Wonder if they are doing a stealth tank. Would think GS catches them is Steph stays healthy... Kings are still fighting for the 10th seed. Just kinda interesting.

The Kings are on fire. They fighting for that 8th seed. Also remember play in games now exist, so less teams will tank.

 

[NUMBERICA]

It’s easy to say when you’re a fan of the big market teams. Without parity though it’s 3 or 4 teams competing for a championship per year at most, some years even less. How about we just have only the lakers and Brooklyn in the league the next two years? What’s the point of a regular season? 95% of the time there are no surprises in the league of who’s going to the finals. BORING. I want a dogfight. I want to see competition.

Without parity it’s cheap because then you have teams who trust the process and spend years of hard work and draft building to get towards the very top, then with one fell swoop you have the two biggest market teams casually pick up the best buyout players out there for nothing.

Gone are the days of the San Antonio Spurs - if you’re a small market team, even if you do everything right, you have almost no chance of winning a chip.

You can’t control the best players going to the larger markets. That’s fine. So at the very least they can change the rules on the buyout. If you get bought out you can’t play until next year. I think that’s fair.

Anyone saying San Antonio is a “small market” has likely never been to the region (which includes Austin, which would make it the biggest in Texas).

Also, Texas is warm.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Anyone saying San Antonio is a “small market” has likely never been to the region (which includes Austin, which would make it the biggest in Texas).

Also, Texas is warm.

It's definitely a small market. Both Dallas (DFW) and Houston (****ing huge) are much bigger markets than Austin/San Antonio. And people in Austin arent Spurs fans, by and large.

 

[infection]

It's definitely a small market. Both Dallas (DFW) and Houston (****ing huge) are much bigger markets than Austin/San Antonio. And people in Austin arent Spurs fans, by and large.

I lived pretty much equidistant from Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio for 4 years and was surprised in never really seeing anyone wearing any gear of any of these teams.

 

[Elizah Huge]

This entire thread is a joke and disappointment. You guys sound like a bunch of whiny ****s. We have the best team and record in the league and a legitimate MVP candidate and this is what you waste your time on.

 

[LogGrad98]

Anyone saying San Antonio is a “small market” has likely never been to the region (which includes Austin, which would make it the biggest in Texas).

Also, Texas is warm

This.

The size of the market is not like border wall around any given city. It is also the surrounding area, and largely the state and general region. You better believe in Texas alone there are far more Spurs fans than there are Jazz fans in all of Utah/Wyoming/Idaho/Montana combined. Not to mention surrounding states and just the general popularity of the franchise around the country. The Spurs are undoubtedly more popular in general, thereby entertaining a much larger fan-base, than the Jazz, and therefore, worth more to the NBA in general.

This highly highly scientific study bears this out:

The 25 NBA franchises with most fans: The most popular basketball teams

The National Basketball Associations has 30 teams, butsome of them have more fans than others. Let's take a look at the 25 most popular NBA teams ranked by social media followers.

bolavip.com

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The Thunder are going to be so ****ing good 4 years from now.

May not have to wait that long if they keep finding guys like Dort and Brown in addition to the 428 draft picks they have over the next couple years.

 

[NUMBERICA]

This.

The size of the market is not like border wall around any given city. It is also the surrounding area, and largely the state and general region. You better believe in Texas alone there are far more Spurs fans than there are Jazz fans in all of Utah/Wyoming/Idaho/Montana combined. Not to mention surrounding states and just the general popularity of the franchise around the country. The Spurs are undoubtedly more popular in general, thereby entertaining a much larger fan-base, than the Jazz, and therefore, worth more to the NBA in general.

This highly highly scientific study bears this out:

The 25 NBA franchises with most fans: The most popular basketball teams

The National Basketball Associations has 30 teams, butsome of them have more fans than others. Let's take a look at the 25 most popular NBA teams ranked by social media followers.

bolavip.com

I’m assuming the “highly scientific” part is a joke.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I lived pretty much equidistant from Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio for 4 years and was surprised in never really seeing anyone wearing any gear of any of these teams.

Dfw has the most fans and biggest basketball culture by far. I've lived in DFW and Austin (current), and a lot of fam in houston

 

[Max Porter]

I just dont get why you bitch about one so much compared to the other.

Dude haha you’re missing my point. I’m not saying it’s one or the other. I’m saying it was one big thing playing against smaller market teams as you’ve stated -now it’s two big things going against you because players are now bullish about joining big market teams too that are already stacked because they want it to be easy. I don’t respect easy in sports. I want competition. I want it to be difficult.

Because when you win in that kind of environment, a league with parity, it’s a real achievement. Tagging along on the greatness of others is not an achievement. Never will be.

Also, the reason I can’t fault GM’s for finding the best players is because it’s their job to do so. Their job is to build a good team. The players don’t have that job. A players job is to make your team as good as it can be on the court, not talk during the off-season to all of your all star buddies to join you. Not to demand your team pull a trade for better players or to get a coach fired or to demand a trade when you’re already making millions and millions of dollars on guaranteed cash.

That’s all I’m saying. I just think it’s soft and that it shouldn’t be a players role to do all of these things in the background to win a chip. I do wish I could see KD beat GS the year after they lost to them in 7. He probably would’ve beat them with the team they had. But he got scared and rode the coat tails of other greats. That’s not greatness.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Dude haha you’re missing my point. I’m not saying it’s one or the other. I’m saying it was one big thing playing against smaller market teams as you’ve stated -now it’s two big things going against you because players are now bullish about joining big market teams too that are already stacked because they want it to be easy. I don’t respect easy in sports. I want competition. I want it to be difficult.

So shouldn't super teams raise your enjoyment level while watching your team?