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Start here. This is the definitive history of the massacre. We have a copy of this from the first printing that was passed along in my wife's family as she has family members who were involved in this from the beginning, as well as being tangentially related to Juanita Brooks and her family.


The Church put huge pressure on Juanita to rewrite the history as it claims Brigham Young and other church leaders were accessories after the fact. But she refused to edit what she had meticulously researched.

Also, if you get a chance to visit the site of the memorial it is worth the trip. They show exactly where the encampment was initially and what path the mormons lead the wagon train folks along while setting up the massacre and exactly how it went down. You can hike along the path they were forced to walk just before the mormons opened fire and up to the point where the local indians helped massacre the women and children. It is straight horrifying. We have been there a few times and walked the path a couple of times. Very sobering. They show the ravines where the human remains were found and a couple of them still have remains that were left in situ out of respect for the dead.

Little of what is portrayed in American Primeval actually happened. It very very loosely pulled from minor and questionable historical accounts. So as a fictional representation to evoke a shock-factor around life at that time in the rugged frontier it is mildly entertaining, but hardly to be viewed as historical in any even remotely serious context.

I mean its a tv drama series ?? Not a documentary ??
 
I mean its a tv drama series ?? Not a documentary ??
Yes but so many people are talking like it's a definitive history of the MMM and it isn't. My wife's sister's went crazy over it, said it proved Mormons were evil and talked about the movie like it was an expose of Mormons and their blood lust. And that was just a couple people we happen to know. And I think the victims deserve a little more respect than that.
 
Yes but so many people are talking like it's a definitive history of the MMM and it isn't. My wife's sister's went crazy over it, said it proved Mormons were evil and talked about the movie like it was an expose of Mormons and their blood lust. And that was just a couple people we happen to know. And I think the victims deserve a little more respect than that.

Eh the show was nade for entertainment. You'd be pretty daft to think its accurate
 
Oohhh im well aware of the intellect of the general populous. I deal with the general public in work. The average person is wayy more obnoxious than even @Rubashov

**** you!!! You son of a bitch!!!

Now that I've sobered up I remember reading that. Obnoxious? Children are obnoxious, im way ****ing worse than that, im deliberately unpleasant to outright rude.

Anyway get my name out of your ****ing mouth you bitch!!!
 
**** you!!! You son of a bitch!!!

Now that I've sobered up I remember reading that. Obnoxious? Children are obnoxious, im way ****ing worse than that, im deliberately unpleasant to outright rude.

Anyway get my name out of your ****ing mouth you bitch!!!

You must be slipping and going soft. Thats so r from your best work im embarrassed for you
 
28 years later was quite good. The ending was weird though and I didn't like it
This just showed up on netflix and I really liked it. I was impressed with how they made it look similar to 28 days later while also feeling like something new. Like all the action is great and the gore is really fun. Danny Boyle still got it, Garland's writing is strong. The ending is very goofy and I can understand not liking it. But overall very solid, look forward to the next one.
 
I started watching Wednesday yesterday. Better than I expected.
I really liked a lot of Season 1, but the
supernatural love triangle
annoyed me. Like, I get why they thought they had to have it, but they really didn't.
 
Dexter: Resurrection is FANTASTIC.

They’ve really hit it out of the park with this one after the disasterous Dexter: New Blood.

A true return to form here.

Check it out.
 
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