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Miggs said:
There’s no guarantee he’d fall to you. Again, you guys aren’t swimming in picks next year. You have one 1st and one 2nd. Thirds and fourths don’t carry that much value.

The Browns will suck and have two 1sts.

Stafford is old and the Rams have two 1sts next year (one of which is mediocre Atlanta’s) in order to move up and draft their future qb.

The Saints should blow chunks and I’m guessing will give up after one year of the Tyler Shough experiment and draft a qb in the top 8.

The Jets should be really bad with Fields at qb this season.

That’s four teams who almost certainly will be able to draft higher than Pitt lest Pitt trades two future 1sts on top of their 2026 1st.

Then, the Colts and/or Raiders imo will draft a qb. Miami and the Jags could draft a qb. There’s probably 1-2 more teams who could as well. The Cards. Maybe someone else.
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What if we traded a ‘27 1st to move up then?

Pretty sure you can move up at least 10 spots with that.

You’re not thinking outside the box enough mate.
 
I just want to throw the caveat that obviously anything is possible. Rodgers is old af and could get hurt and go out for the year.
The Midnight said:
What if we traded a ‘27 1st to move up then?

Pretty sure you can move up at least 10 spots with that.

You’re not thinking outside the box enough mate.
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A ‘27 1st is worth about half as much as a 2026 1st.

I’m thinking out of the box plenty.
 
Miggs said:
I just want to throw the caveat that obviously anything is possible. Rodgers is old af and could get hurt and go out for the year.


A ‘27 1st is worth about half as much as a 2026 1st.

I’m thinking out of the box plenty.
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Well you didn't even consider using the ‘27 pick..

So that’s not thinking out of the box.. lol..
 
Miggs said:
Listen, the Steelers moves this off-season are head scratching. Maybe Tomlin and the GM feel the hot seat as if they have to win now. Add Rodgers. Get rid of the immature Pickens and get Metcalf. Secure the CB spot by adding Ramsey to (Slay and Porter) while also adding a weapon in Smith for Rodgers. With the loss at safety, they (I would assume) might think they can sign someone as there’s a plethora of solid ones out there. Not sure of their cap situation or how he fits their scheme but Justin Simmons comes to mind.

All that said, I think they’re kidding their selves. No one area of their team is great. I’m not sure I’d even say any of their team is very good. Not their o line, or qb, or RBs or pass catchers. Defensively they’re overrated.

The only silver lining really is Will Howard. I believe in him.
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Miggs said:
It’s head scratching (other than Pickens and Metcalf moves) because they’ve gotten older. Rodgers is old and meh. Ramsey is considerably older than Minkah. Idk. Smith wants to be paid. Idk. Maybe they’ve done that while also balancing out youth in the draft in Harmon, Johnson, Sawyer and Howard plus two rookie corners. I just think Watt is on his way to being cooked I guess. His advanced stats really took a hit last year and now he’s a year older.
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LoL

Rodgers and Ramsey were instrumental to the Jets win.
 
Someday offensive coordinators will realize that you should always do a QB sneak on 3rd or 4th and short. Every single time.

I saw so many handoffs and passes get stuffed today. Often for losses. And one resulted in a penalty.

Meanwhile I saw 6 QB sneaks so far. All 6 were successful and 3 were touchdowns.
Daniel Jones attempted 4 QB sneaks today in the colts game. All 4 were successful and 2 were touchdowns.

QB sneak is successful over 80% of the time.

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CJ Stroud 4th and 1. QB sneak. First down

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fishonjazz said:
Someday offensive coordinators will realize that you should always do a QB sneak on 3rd or 4th and short. Every single time.

I saw so many handoffs and passes get stuffed today. Often for losses. And one resulted in a penalty.

Meanwhile I saw 6 QB sneaks so far. All 6 were successful and 3 were touchdowns.
Daniel Jones attempted 4 QB sneaks today in the colts game. All 4 were successful and 2 were touchdowns.

QB sneak is successful over 80% of the time.

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I think only thing I can think of that would put them off doing it would be an injury concern, like if there’s an pushback or a scrum, etc.
 
The Midnight said:
I think only thing I can think of that would put them off doing it would be an injury concern, like if there’s an pushback or a scrum, etc.
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The problem I have with that is there is no factual data to back up the concern.

I have been tracking this for a few years now. QB's never get hurt when doing a QB sneak. There is no speed on a QB sneak. Injuries happen primarily due big players colliding at high speeds. QB sneaks take away the high speed aspect.

Btw I did finally see an unsuccessful QB sneak yesterday. Stafford did one on 3rd and goal from the 1 and was stuffed. They handed it off on 4th and goal and scored.

Funny thing about that is that the thing that got me interested in this topic was a few years ago when I saw a stat on TV during a Stafford game that said Matthew Stafford was 16-16 on QB sneaks for his career.

That was when I looked into the data/stats and found that the QB sneak is WAY more successful than any other play on those short yardage situations.

Since then I have been watching closely to see what is called and what happens on 3rd or 4th and less than 2 yards.
My conclusion after reading the data and watching the plays happen is that every offensive coordinator should call a QB sneak every single time. Regardless of opponent and who the QB is and any other factor. It should always be the call.

Watch the games next Sunday yourself and pay close attention to this. You will see plenty of unsuccessful running back runs and QB passes but pretty much every QB sneak will be successful. I guarantee it.

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fishonjazz said:
The problem I have with that is there is no factual data to back up the concern.

I have been tracking this for a few years now. QB's never get hurt when doing a QB sneak. There is no speed on a QB sneak. Injuries happen primarily due big players colliding at high speeds. QB sneaks take away the high speed aspect.

Btw I did finally see an unsuccessful QB sneak yesterday. Stafford did one on 3rd and goal from the 1 and was stuffed. They handed it off on 4th and goal and scored.

Funny thing about that is that the thing that got me interested in this topic was a few years ago when I saw a stat on TV during a Stafford game that said Matthew Stafford was 16-16 on QB sneaks for his career.

That was when I looked into the data/stats and found that the QB sneak is WAY more successful than any other play on those short yardage situations.

Since then I have been watching closely to see what is called and what happens on 3rd or 4th and less than 2 yards.
My conclusion after reading the data and watching the plays happen is that every offensive coordinator should call a QB sneak every single time. Regardless of opponent and who the QB is and any other factor. It should always be the call.

Watch the games next Sunday yourself and pay close attention to this. You will see plenty of unsuccessful running back runs and QB passes but pretty much every QB sneak will be successful. I guarantee it.

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Not sure if there’s a stat tracking injuries in QB sneak..

But for a QB you only need a minor finger sprain on the throwing hand to be out for weeks and that could mean the end of the season for some teams…
 
The Midnight said:
Not sure if there’s a stat tracking injuries in QB sneak..

But for a QB you only need a minor finger sprain on the throwing hand to be out for weeks and that could mean the end of the season for some teams…
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Didn't think I said there is a stat tracking injuries on QB sneaks. Cool thing is that there doesn't need to be one. I just watch a lot of football and pay extra attention to the QB sneak and never ever see a QB injured due to the QB sneak. It is much safer than dropping back in the pocket and having guys come at you full speed unseen and blast you standing upright, stretched out and unprepared.

This is another thing I encourage you to watch for this season. As you watch football this season pay attention to the success rate of the QB sneak (and the lack of success when the QB sneak isn't used) and also pay attention to any QB injuries and how they happen.
I will guarantee you that almost all QB injuries will happen on non QB sneak plays. I would even bet that you won't see a single injury to a QB on a QB sneak.
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