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fishonjazz said:
If only we would have kept our pick instead of traded it for George Hill. Then we might have timothe luwawu cabarrot (a guy lots of jazz fanzers, myself included, wanted with that pick) and his 6 points and 1.6 rebounds per game along with his 38% shooting and his 30% 3 point shooting.

We would probably be competing for home court advantage in the playoffs if only we had him.
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At the time it made sense. We went all in to retain Hayward. Same goes for Rubio. In hindsight we all are regret those moves.

I don't see DL trading this year's first
 
Ron Mexico said:
You are assuming that we will stay that low. We are getting our best player last year back in Gobert. We are getting Exum back. We played the second toughest schedule in the NBA already with a lot of new players in a new system. I think it is a safe bet we have a better record going forward then we have to this point. Unless we make trades and the FO really goes full tank. But I am doubtful that happens.

We can also put protections on the pick and we should do that. I know that prevents us from a hypothetical future trade but that is a risk well worth it to get a player that fits well and is playing at a really high level. There are not many stretch 4s that can shoot at this level that can also rebound and handle the ball and drive a bit, especially that are available.

Mirotic is not worth a top 10 pick. But we probably wont have a top 10 pick and we definitely can put restrictions on the pick to prevent giving up a pick that good.
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Yes, we are making different assumptions about how good we are going to be for the rest of the season. Maybe it takes Gobert a couple of weeks to get in basketball shape. It is also likely that Favors and some of the non-guaranteed deals are traded too. We are 5 spots outside the playoffs, 10th on a 9th team race. We can improve but I am a bit pessimistic for the rest of the season.
 
latin jazz said:
At the time it made sense. We went all in to retain Hayward. Same goes for Rubio. In hindsight we all are regret those moves.

I don't see DL trading this year's first
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Neither do I, which I find unfortunate. GH deal I feel was a no brainer and worked out well even though he left. The Rubio deal was stupid in hindsight, foresight, and even no-sight. We need to appraise all deals independently. This is much more solid than the Rubio trade but can’t pass it up just because we **** the bed on that deal. It’s like betting on the outcome of a coin flip based on what happened the past 5 flips.
 
latin jazz said:
Lol. At the beginning I was excited for the move. Oh man, how wrong I was
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Well, if it's reassuring to you I absolutely hated the move. So if I say move a first for him, perhaps that will be as good as the Rubio trade was bad.
 
latin jazz said:
Did you just say we need to appraise all deals independently? ;)
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Yes.

Question: Is Mirotic worth a 20-30 pick?
Answer: Yes.
Solution: Trade one for him.
Red herring: But we traded one for Rubio and GH!
 
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infection said:
Yes.

Question: Is Mirotic worth a 20-30 pick?
Answer: Yes.
Solution: Trade it one for him.
Red herring: But we traded one for Rubio and GH!
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And we don't pick in the 20s. Third team needs to be involved or protections attached. We've been over this. Could happen but it's unlikely
 
LoPo said:
If we use our first to get Mirotic and dump a bad contract like Burks', then we can use Favors and JoeJ to get another first. I'm not saying we go first-less in this draft. I'm just saying get a guy who seems to fit need, likes the staff, and should have staying power.
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So give up a Donovan Mitchell (or at least a player with all-star potential at a rookie price) and draft a guy like Lydon with a pick in the 20's.

You at least need to lottery-protect the pick. There are chances to get high-end starters all the way through the lottery. Can the Jazz jump into the playoffs? Yes. But it' more likely, IMO, that they don't make up the 5 game deficit.

Chicago is just hoping DL panics. If ANY team had offered a 1st, Mirotic would have already been out the door. Chicago is only hurting their own draft position by winning with Nikola. I'm sure DL has put an offer on the table. Chicago will start feeling some heat from ownership to get a deal done. There's no way they pick up his option for next year. DL might be able to just sign him as a FA if Chicago whiffs on a trade.
 
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