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Game Thread Oct 02, 2022 04:00PM MT: Jazz at Raptors (Preseason)

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I also liked Vanderbilt's activity.

He nearly had a ton of offensive rebounds against a very athletic and tall team. I could see him really dominating the glass against certain teams if he brings that same energy.
 
One big takeaway is that we should probably just go ahead and plan on keeping Conley for the entire year. There really isn't any young player who can use those starting pg minutes.
 
Overall I thought the starting 5 was solid. Once they figure out their chemistry and what not, I could see that group excelling offensively. No shot creators, but I could see that group developing some ball movement chemistry to where they get enough quality looks to be a good offense.
 
I think some of you are overreacting to this game from a winning standpoint. You can't take anything from this game when it comes to that. My issue is I have zero interest in watching any of these vets play over younger guys. Nothing is worse for developing younger players than garbage time like we saw today because it is always crappy and chaotic basketball. They need to be given consistent minutes that actually mean something during a game.
 
sip said:
I think some of you are overreacting to this game from a winning standpoint. You can't take anything from this game when it comes to that. My issue is I have zero interest in watching any of these vets play over younger guys. Nothing is worse for developing younger players than garbage time like we saw today because it is always crappy and chaotic basketball. They need to be given consistent minutes that actually mean something during a game.
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If you want to lose every game by 30 sure. You cant just throw in young guys who have no shot at competing if you want to develop a good culture. I think the Jazz actually want to get out of this tanking phase with a lot of pieces they think they can keep. They dont want to just throw them out there and lose, shoot their confidence, and move on.

The Jazz vets arent good enough to win them games, but they are good enough to not be completely trashed like our young guys. There's value in keeping them around until the right deal comes along or they expire.
 
Kessler’s defense was worse than I thought it would be and his offense was better then I thought it would be.

Kind of a good thing we have Conley because Sexton is not a point guard. Thought Sexton was poor at times defensively and his ball handling was loose.

Butler looked like ***, at this point he’s a real contender to get cut. Fontecchio had a rough first game. Horton-Tucker looks fat to me. Markannen was the best player by far for the Jazz.
 
HeatCheck said:
I'm keeping an open mind on Sexton but he's not going to be developing as a playmaker next to JC who is just out there looking for his own shot. It got real sloppy in the 2nd half with guys not moving the ball especially some of the veteran players.

I don't think Olynyk added anything to today's starting lineup either. Conley can still play. Beasley can shoot but he needs to be fed. I liked what I saw of Markannen in the first half. He has some potential to rebound and bring the ball up the floor. I like Vandy but he's so limited offensively. Gay is washed. JC is still JC and looking for his own shot every time down the floor which is not a great fit on this current team. NAW has some untapped potential and would like to see more of him playing alongside Sexton or Conley. I thought Kessler was fine in his first preseason game.
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Sexton and Clarkson together is a nightmare scenario. I really don't want Clarksons selfish playing style anywhere near these young guys.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
If you want to lose every game by 30 sure. You cant just throw in young guys who have no shot at competing if you want to develop a good culture. I think the Jazz actually want to get out of this tanking phase with a lot of pieces they think they can keep. They dont want to just throw them out there and lose, shoot their confidence, and move on.

The Jazz vets arent good enough to win them games, but they are good enough to not be completely trashed like our young guys. There's value in keeping them around until the right deal comes along or they expire.
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Agreed, but I won't cry if we find a new home for Clarkson.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
If you want to lose every game by 30 sure. You cant just throw in young guys who have no shot at competing if you want to develop a good culture. I think the Jazz actually want to get out of this tanking phase with a lot of pieces they think they can keep. They dont want to just throw them out there and lose, shoot their confidence, and move on.

The Jazz vets arent good enough to win them games, but they are good enough to not be completely trashed like our young guys. There's value in keeping them around until the right deal comes along or they expire.
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No! These young guys are good enough to play competive basketball if given consistent minutes. There is no need to waste minutes on guys like Olynyk, Clarkson and Gay. Sexton is more than capable of replacing Clarksons instant offense if we bring him off the bench and Fontecchio can do the same thing or better with Gays minutes. With Olynyk I would much rather give those minutes to Kessler or play small ball with Vanderbilt.
 
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