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OKC Trade is a glimpse into our future

For the sake of the future I hope that Dallas and Toronto make the playoffs and that they have a high seed. It would be really tough if OKC added two more lottery talents to their roster. They already have a steal in PJ3.
 
orangello said:
OKC certainly took a step back with this trade but it might make them stronger in the next two years.
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I think they did not take any steps back. K.Mart is more then capable to provide scoring punch of the bench and J.Lamb will be better then Harden IMHO.
 
Rockets must feel they can re-sign Harden - they certainly have cap room to offer him a max deal. But if I'm Harden I want no part of Houston. The Rockets threw a ton of money at Asik and Lin. Two huge question marks. If those guys don't pan out (which is very likely) that franchise is going to have a whole load of nothing.
 
AKMVP said:
I think they did not take any steps back. K.Mart is more then capable to provide scoring punch of the bench and J.Lamb will be better then Harden IMHO.
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Harden is a better defender than both of those players and a more prolific scorer in limited minutes. Harden can create with the ball in his hands. K-Mart can't do that and Lamb has not shown that ability in the NBA yet.
 
candrew said:
Rockets must feel they can re-sign Harden - they certainly have cap room to offer him a max deal. But if I'm Harden I want no part of Houston. The Rockets threw a ton of money at Asik and Lin. Two huge question marks. If those guys don't pan out (which is very likely) that franchise is going to have a whole load of nothing.
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Houston is going to offer Harden 4 years $60 million. Harden wants the money.
 
It sounds like Harden was a greedy ****. The thunder offered him $55.5 over 4 years, 4.5 less than what Houston will give him. Not many players ever get the opportunity to play on a championship quality team. Ask Malone and Stockton how much they would pay for that opportunity. Now he's in Houston playing on an abysmal team that will not make the Playoffs. I understand it's 4.5 million dollars, but when you've already got $55.5, why not take the better working conditions unless you don't care?
 
This might actually turn out to be a good thing for Utah. If OKC and Harden both struggle this year and next, the Jazz might be able to point to that for the young guys and show them that in order to take the next step as players and as an organization it might be better to sign large deals but not the max.

Only time will tell.
 
JJAS said:
It sounds like Harden was a greedy ****. The thunder offered him $55.5 over 4 years, 4.5 less than what Houston will give him. Not many players ever get the opportunity to play on a championship quality team. Ask Malone and Stockton how much they would pay for that opportunity. Now he's in Houston playing on an abysmal team that will not make the Playoffs. I understand it's 4.5 million dollars, but when you've already got $55.5, why not take the better working conditions unless you don't care?
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Like my post just below yours, this might work to the Jazz's favor. Or should I say Favors?
 
orangello said:
For the sake of the future I hope that Dallas and Toronto make the playoffs and that they have a high seed. It would be really tough if OKC added two more lottery talents to their roster. They already have a steal in PJ3.
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Orange, not sure if I remember correctly, but Houston got a weird protection with the Toronto pick. If Toronto makes the playoffs, then Houston DOESNT get the pick. I think it has like a lottery-only reverse protection. Im doing a terrible job of explaining this. Lemme find a link.

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Instead, the Rockets waited until things fell apart, and sent Lowry away for … we don't know.
It's going to be a lottery pick, we know as much. Protected out of the lower 16 picks of the draft, in a move I cannot recall a mirrored one for in years of covering the NBA. It's also protected out of the top three next year, the top two in 2014 and 2015, and first overall in 2016. If the Raptors have a terrible time in the winnin' business over that span and luck out with those considerations, they'll also keep the pick.
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So OKC will get either a 3-14th pick, a 2-14th pick, or a 1-14th pick in 2016. Guaranteed a lottery pick no matter what. If Toronto makes the playoffs, OKC doesn't get any picks from Toronto.
 
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