If you read all of my posts in this thread, it would be apparent (at least to most) that I have been fair to all prospects, regardless of collegiate affinity. Beal, Miller, McAdoo, etc .. have been highly praised. Don't make me call the dogs.
On the radar: 2012 Draft Class
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If you read all of my posts in this thread, it would be apparent (at least to most) that I have been fair to all prospects, regardless of collegiate affinity. Beal, Miller, McAdoo, etc .. have been highly praised. Don't make me call the dogs.
Makes sense, but I don't see anyone trading the pick unless the trade involves an existing superstar. Even then, not sure.
spycam1
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I'm not totally sold on Drummond. Don't get me wrong, he's as talented and physically gifted as they come, but his motor and mind set really concern me. For instance, during his senior year (or whatever you want to call it) he only averaged about 15ppg/10rpg. To put that into perspective, here's the senior year stats for some of the best bigs in recent years, as well as other highly ranked prospects:
Kevin Garnett: 25ppg/18rpg
Dwight Howard: 25ppg/18rpg
Amare Stoudemire: 29ppg/15rpg
Chris Webber: 29ppg/13rpg
Blake Griffin: 27ppg/15rpg
Derrick Favors: 28ppg/13rpg
Anthony Davis: 32ppg/22rpg
Jared Sullinger: 25ppg/12rpg
Obviously, Drummond was no where near as dominant as the others listed, even though he could have been. And it's not hard to find scouting reports complaining about his demeanor on the court.
That being said, when Drummond turns it on, he turns it ON. He just needs to learn to KEEP it on. Hopefully Calhoun is the guy that can get him to do that. I'll be rooting for him this season, and I really want him to reach his potential, but as it stands now, I think it's too early to be calling him the #1 pick of the 2012 NBA draft, and certainly too early to say he will have a Lebron-like impact.
Drummond committed to UConn, not Kentucky.
Don't forget about good ol' Al Jefferson: 42.6ppg/18rpg/4ast./7blks
Fishsticks
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Pull up your shorts, your inferiority complex is showing .. again.
Problem with quoting HS stats though is you don't know the quality of competition he was around. Take Big Al for instance, he grew up in a small rural area of Mississippi. There isn't going to much talent in small schools around the area, so of course he is going to own.
Incredibly true. We've seen players average 40 points per game, be their high school's all-time phenom, yet walk-on at a major D1 school and get no more than about 40 minutes of court time in four years, total. Yet we see other players, that play at the highest level of competition average 15 points or less (at the same age) see no reduction, and many times significant increases, in production when making the transition to college.
True. I was just adding to what the poster above provided. Al's stats were so outlandish that I thought we could include them. In Al's defense, he did score over 44 points in the final three games of his AAU team tournament. There's no question he dominated high school, which means almost nothing. He was picked 15th in the NBA, and here we are. Also, I don't think any one would be surprised to see Al average 23, 11, 2, 2 (but at what cost?).
Which are you asking?
IF you were asking who averaged 40 points but did nothing in college, I can give you dozens .. one of which is Preston LeMaster (walk-on for UK).
No, he was awesome in high school and then suddenly could do nothing at the next level. I'll provide plenty that didn't do as much in high school as college. Understand that I'm really referring to a great player that may be utilized differently depending on the college team he may choose (playing time, position, quality of supporting cast, etc.)
Gyp Rosetti
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Still waiting for who...
Damn .. this is a day that I'm actually, gulp, working. Okay, how about Doron Lamb shot 38% in high school (from 3) and then, with a better supporting cast spreading the defense, shot 48% from 3 in his first year of college. Dwayne Wade carried a RSCI rank of #51 (I believe) in his HIGH SCHOOL class before becoming the 5th overall pick in the draft.
Marshon Brooks fits this category in my opinion (it's all about subjective).
Jimmer Fredette (yep)
Westbrook
Curry
Granger
Millsap
Hayward
McGee
Jason Thompson
Maynor
Okafor
Wesley Johnson
All of these guys did much better than expected when moving from high school to college. I'm not sure I'm understanding your question, though .. so let me know.
Gyp Rosetti
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Westbrook was ranked from 100 to 300 in his high school class.
Stephen Curry was ranked in the 500's.
Kevin Martin only had 1 Div1 offer (Western Carolina)
Granger was ranked around 400.
Devin Harris was 200+.
Chris Kaman wasn't ranked at all.
Paul Millsap???
Okafor around 150.
Hayward was a two-star
Maynor was 300+.
Stop hating. These kids obviously picked up their games at the next level.