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unluckyseventeen said:
KEK and Archie, we all love you guys. If we ever come off with a tough-guy facade, it's because we're all lame, faux tough-guys on the internet. If we can do anything to help then please let us know.

Thanks.


I will at least share some experiences (oh god, I'm at work and about to break down right now.. how embarrassing), as I had a very dear person to me pass very quickly and unexpectedly after a long fight with cancer. I'll tell you that it's going to be hard, and you'll have really unexpected times of ups and downs - I actually broke down crying in a Smith's parking lot the day after she died. I felt really upset at how a lot of people acted at her funeral - as if this was a routine thing.

I'm not sure how people acted at the funeral you're referencing but I'm sorry either way. At my brother's service (there was no funeral), I don't think I acted like a typical mourner. There was over 800 people, and about 500 of them were students or ex-students. At times, when I saw certain people who I know positively influenced his life or meant something to him or us collectively as a family, it became a little tougher for me. But for all the kids, I tried to be as appreciative and normal and strong for them as possible, telling them thank you and it's okay and things of that nature. I think bawling tears can send the wrong message in some ways. That's not to say I think males shouldn't cry. Quite the contrary. And of course natural human emotions are a beautiful thing and are to be understood in such a situation. But I felt, I suppose consciously and subconsciously, that such emotions can send kids the wrong message and they begin to wallow in their own self-pity, even though almost all of them really didn't know my brother. Even though he did choose to take his own life. I'm sorry if that sounds cruel. I love my brother so dearly still. But I can't feign the truth and that is that he took his own life and I can't help but think that no martyrdom should come from that.

It was really hard, and you don't know how much you appreciate somebody until they're gone.

Things will always remind you of the person you were close to, and you'll miss them, sure, but after a couple of weeks you'll start to see pictures of them or things that remind you of them, and be happy that you knew them, rather than sad that they're gone. I at least take solace in a sort of belief that you'll see them again, someday. I can't explain the afterlife or even life itself, but it's mysterious and it would be a flat-out cheat if you couldn't see the ones you loved after this life. So, I'll go on to say: you'll see them again, and the circumstances will be much better.

It'll be okay. We love you. Lots of people are willing to support you and help out however we can. Just let us know.

Thank you very much man. it means a lot. I'll say that I too apologize if I come across as a douche on here which I know I do more often than anyone else. Okay, outside of anyone other than Dick and Dave perhaps. But you get the point. I know I'm no tough guy and am just screwing around on a site I love. Thanks Jason and mods.
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I came across a saying a while back that I really like. Perhaps I have shared it before so I apologize if I have but here it is:

Everything is okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end.

Best wishes to you and your family.
 
Surely said:
I came across a saying a while back that I really like. Perhaps I have shared it before so I apologize if I have but here it is:

Everything is okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end.

Best wishes to you and your family.
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+12 after I spread some rep around.
 
Sorry for your loss Archie, studying the plan of salvation will help. You will see him again and it will be a joyous reunion.
 
The only thing I can tell you Archie is that you and only you know what's best for you. Like I was telling you when we talked, my wife's younger brother died about 7 and a half years ago. He was her only full sibling and only about 18 months younger than her. That was easily the most brutal thing we have ever gone through. My wife and I were high school sweet hearts, so I'd known him for about 10 years. He was like a brother to me too. The one thing that helped us was being around the rest of the family. That night we spent with her dad's side of the family talking about him and reliving the wonderful memories we have. The next day we broke out some of the home movies before moving to be with her mom's side, where we did it all over again. It was brutally hard and extremely healing all at the same time.
The only advice I can give you is to trust yourself and your heart. You have every right to feel any emotions you may feel. If you think you need to get out and be by yourself, do it. Just be careful of other emotions you may be feeling if you want to be by yourself. If you want to stay home with your wife, do it. If you want to spend every waking minute with your family, do it. If you don't want to talk about him for a while, don't. Personally, talking about him helped us immensely.
One other thing I will say is this: I know where your general religious beliefs lay. Remember the things you've been taught and have taught. Get a Priesthood Blessing. Think of someone you know and trust who isn't directly involved in the family but knows you guys. When my brother-in-law died, I asked my dad to give us both blessings. I simply couldn't keep myself from breaking down long enough to do it for my wife, so he did it for me. Rely on the Lord.
As I said earlier to you, don't hesitate to call on me if you want.
 
I really do love this place. We're all dicks to each other, but when it matters, we're all here for each other also.

I would rep you all if I could.










(except BeanClown)
 
TroutBum said:
I really do love this place. We're all dicks to each other, but when it matters, we're all here for each other also.

I would rep you all if I could.










(except BeanClown)
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Haha, I was just gonna PM you to see if you could help with our insurance and combine them all. Good thing I was slow to act on that.
 
I would like to thank all of you for your posts, texts, calls, messages, and keeping me in your thoughts and prayers. It's funny, but I never would have thought that a message board could be so kind, sincere, loving, and respectful - especially to a guy who plays a persona like Archie Moses. You've truly been uplifting and kind and I've needed it. I'm not looking for a pity-party, I'm just having a real hard time coping with the fact that I lost my brother today.

Again, thanks!


-Mike
 
I just barely got to this thread, but my condolences for your loss, Mike. Stay strong. You and KEK will see your brothers again.
 
My brother's last stand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7brcE3URAI

I'm gonna miss hearing the same jokes over and over again. This was his final performance. I've heard that a lot of comedians suffer from depression and OD.

Also, I wanted to add that if any of you know of someone suffering from addiction, let them know each day that no matter what stupid decisions they make, you love them and they'll always be family or your friend. After reading The book of Lost Things (I highly recommend it) there was a part about compassion towards family members and love I wanted to share with my brother, but I waited too long. I'm just glad he doesn't have to battle his demons any more.
 
My condolences to you both. It's hard losing loved ones, especially in that manner. Keep your heads up and stay strong.
 
Archie Moses said:
My brother's last stand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7brcE3URAI

I'm gonna miss hearing the same jokes over and over again. This was his final performance. I've heard that a lot of comedians suffer from depression and OD.

Also, I wanted to add that if any of you know of someone suffering from addiction, let them know each day that no matter what stupid decisions they make, you love them and they'll always be family or your friend. After reading The book of Lost Things (I highly recommend it) there was a part about compassion towards family members and love I wanted to share with my brother, but I waited too long. I'm just glad he doesn't have to battle his demons any more.
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Amen.



BTW I laughed out loud at LeBron's choice of teams (won't say it and spoil it for everyone else) and the related jokes. Good stuff.
 
Very cool(his comedy, not his death).

I had a brother that ODed on purpose when he was serving a mission because he was stressed out and had packed on 20-30 lbs within six months and was very into his body pre-mission and stuff and just felt like his whole life was falling apart. The communication back to our house was really poor so we were led to believe he was dead for a good 2 days or so, and I was like in a trace for those two days. I didn't cry, but it was such a hollow feeling. Luckily, a few days past and we got word that he had his stomach pumped and had taken a non-lethal cocktail of drugs and would be okay. But man, those couple of days were tough. Stay strong, dude.
 
thanks for sharing the video and I hope this will be of some comfort to you Archie, looks like there's a nurturing mother figure helping to guide your brother on his next journey...

and RIP Joyce Sloane, "mother" of Second City who passed away at age 80

https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-joyce-sloane-obit,0,7476082.story

Joyce Sloane, the beloved maternal powerhouse of The Second City, and the woman who found and nurtured such comedy giants as John Belushi, Gilda Radner, Chris Farley and Bill Murray, died Thursday, according to Kelly Leonard, the vice-president of The Second City....

"Everybody who comes to Second City has issues," said Tim Kazurinsky, one of Sloane's charges. "She was the mother to the largest dysfunctional family in the world. Second City was like marine boot-camp, but over in this corner there was little Jewish mother. It's hard to imagine the void."
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Sloane was den mother to Chicago actors, comedians and improvisers for nearly a half-century; she regarded the likes of Vardalos, Bonnie Hunt, Tina Fey and countless others as her surrogate daughters.
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TroutBum said:
I really do love this place. We're all dicks to each other, but when it matters, we're all here for each other also.

I would rep you all if I could.










(except BeanClown)
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Agreed. Very good post.

But still, NEG REPPPP'D for your "please die" towards Raja. You cool *******.
 
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