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The Jazz were given lemons and they made some ****in lemonade. Some of you are going to look so damn stupid when the season starts. I give the Jazz an A- when they probably deserve an A. Anything that would have made it an A probably just wasn't on the table(Trey Burke for anything)
 
Cool.

Meanwhile the rest of the world who watches basketball think Hill is really good, including Zach Lowe who thinks he is better than Serge Ibaka.

Anybody claiming Chalmers is near Hill is not worth responding to.
 
It's an F for me. We completely wasted 3 valuable assets (#12, #42 and #60), we made no moves to clear the bottleneck at PG, we got no future assets via trade. The best thing we got from the whole process was a third string PF (if he makes the team). It's the worst draft I've ever seen the team have.
So picks 42-60 are valuable but somehow you've figured out that Bolomboy is a third string pf regardless? Interesting.
Every asset can be valuable if used the correct way. Would you call Isaiah Thomas a valuable asset to the Celtics? He was a 60th pick.
So, what if this Tyrone guy turns out to be good?
It's a waste because we could have just signed a similar combo guard in free agency without giving up anything. Mario Chalmers for instance.
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Several 2nd round picks have turned out to be good players. Arguing over how valuable is a matter of pov I guess. But either way it's bad asset management.
Again what if one of those pg's drafted end up being really good?
Chalmers was just one example. The key factor here is, is George Hill THAT much better than Chalmers (or anyone else available in free agency) that you give up a lottery pick for him? No chance.
Hill was really good the year PG was injured, then PG came back and the Pacers signed Ellis. Hill's usage rate went way down. He was reduced to being a spot up shooter playing off the ball as a pg, because PG and Ellis had the ball. How many combo guards shoot it as good as he does then also plays great defense?
I have a feeling trading into the late first round probably got extremely hard with all the late lottery/mid first projected picks falling because teams where reaching for players.
U beat me to it. Had this very thought during the draft.
 
Hill was really good the year PG was injured, then PG came back and the Pacers signed Ellis. Hill's usage rate went way down. He was reduced to being a spot up shooter playing off the ball as a pg, because PG and Ellis had the ball. How many combo guards shoot it as good as he does then also plays great defense?

Not sure why people don't understand this. This was the only year he had a USG% over twenty, and it was by far and away his best season. Judging by Mack's USG% of 22.2, he'll have a more important role here than he did in Indiana in the non PG injury years. That season (14-15) he averaged 28.1/7.3/8.9 per 100 possessions on a 23.8 usg%. That's 16.9/4.4/5.3 per 60 possessions, or about 32 minutes of Jazz basketball. He also shot a fantastic 54%/36%/79% (2pt/3pt/fg) that year. That is what we can reasonably expect out of this guy.
 
So picks 42-60 are valuable but somehow you've figured out that Bolomboy is a third string pf regardless? Interesting.

He'll be third string to start his career. Favors and Lyles exist.

So, what if this Tyrone guy turns out to be good?

If he does, it won't be here. He's stuck behind 43 other point guards.

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Whatever. If the Jazz would have picked up Chalmers or any other combo guard certain people would have been calling them the best thing since sliced bread too. Just like people are doing with Hill now, so. Stats say they are very similar.

Again what if one of those pg's drafted end up being really good?

Again, if they do it won't be on this team.

Hill was really good the year PG was injured, then PG came back and the Pacers signed Ellis. Hill's usage rate went way down. He was reduced to being a spot up shooter playing off the ball as a pg, because PG and Ellis had the ball. How many combo guards shoot it as good as he does then also plays great defense?

His three point shooting is great. But 11 ppg, 3 apg and 3 rpg is NOT special. It's a dime a dozen in the nba.

U beat me to it. Had this very thought during the draft.

So yeah, whatever. Different opinions.
 
#12 for George Hill - incomplete(depends on whether we keep him and what's the price), if both conditions are favorable - A
#42 for #55 + $$ - C - would have preferred some stash player - Cordinier has been my favourite throughout the process and he was there and we punted on him. Meh.
#52 Joel Bolomboy - B
#55 Marcus Paige - B
#60 Tyrone Wallace - B
 
Got nothing? I responded to each of your responses lol. Look again.

Oh I see. Like an idiot u responded inside the quote, and most of those are complete assumptions.

He was behind Ellis and PG. 11 pts is not bad for a guy reduced to a 3&D role. I was talking about the year before when he had a decent usage rate he put up 16-4-5. The next year the usage rate was cut in half, idiot...


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