Real GM: The Genius of KOC
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I'm also a fan of KOC. I even picked up his Jersey at a yard sale for a good deal.
Ok, I made up the jersey part, but they really should give him a jersey and a number.
Results matter, and KOC has just gotten the job done. Another rockstar GM that KOC has soundly drubbed is Kevin Pritchard.
KOC isn't perfect, but we're fortunate to have him. Just think about the 2006 draft, if you have to re-draft, Millsap is definitely a top 5 pick. And how many teams trade so high into a draft to get their guy and he ends up panning out very well?
Precisely. Some dip ****s will never be satisfied.
On a related tangent, RC Buford is one of the few guys (actually the only one off the top of my head) that I'd take over KOC),
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KOC has done a good job.
But should we really be celebrating that our management is better than Houston's? For one, Houston was a team that loved Tmac, signed/traded for Ron Artest, and canned JVG and Rick Adelman, right? In all fairness, they lost Yao Ming. If we were to lose Favors for 4 straight years due to injuries, I'm not sure we'd be lookin so hot...
The Suns management put together a team that competed for the Finals for several years in a row. They had major losses in FA with Amare and Joe Johnson bailing. They had a brief brain fart in trading for The Big Shaqtus (he was a bigtime disaster after about 04 when he got too fat and old).
Houston? Hasn't won a playoff series in how many years?
The Suns? In the same boat as the Jazz, never having won the big one, and stuck because their aging superstar keeps them too competitive (just like how we couldn't rebuild with Malone and Stockton keeping us afloat).
Ultimately, credit needs to be given for KOC having traded Duron when he did, drafting Hayward, and finding some serviceable players like Carroll... He also needs to be bashed for retarded signings of Raja Bell, CJ Miles, and Josh Howard. Not to mention, didn't he also draft Curtis Borchart, Kirk Snyder, and Boom Bitches (ahead of Ibaka???????????? Damn it!!!). The jury is still out on Burks and Kanter. And we'll see how he handles the upcoming FA situation....
He has done a good job. And he needs to be given credit for that.
He shouldn't be given credit for having "done better" than Houston. Houston has been in the crapper for years. And unfortunately, their luck really ran out when Yao was bitten by the injury bug.
Phx? They've been a respectable organization for years. We were in the lottery while they battled teams like SA for the WCF. They're in a transition phase and won't be able to rebuild until they unload Nash.
But should we really be celebrating that our management is better than Houston's? For one, Houston was a team that loved Tmac, signed/traded for Ron Artest, and canned JVG and Rick Adelman, right? In all fairness, they lost Yao Ming. If we were to lose Favors for 4 straight years due to injuries, I'm not sure we'd be lookin so hot...
The Suns management put together a team that competed for the Finals for several years in a row. They had major losses in FA with Amare and Joe Johnson bailing. They had a brief brain fart in trading for The Big Shaqtus (he was a bigtime disaster after about 04 when he got too fat and old).
Houston? Hasn't won a playoff series in how many years?
The Suns? In the same boat as the Jazz, never having won the big one, and stuck because their aging superstar keeps them too competitive (just like how we couldn't rebuild with Malone and Stockton keeping us afloat).
Ultimately, credit needs to be given for KOC having traded Duron when he did, drafting Hayward, and finding some serviceable players like Carroll... He also needs to be bashed for retarded signings of Raja Bell, CJ Miles, and Josh Howard. Not to mention, didn't he also draft Curtis Borchart, Kirk Snyder, and Boom Bitches (ahead of Ibaka???????????? Damn it!!!). The jury is still out on Burks and Kanter. And we'll see how he handles the upcoming FA situation....
He has done a good job. And he needs to be given credit for that.
He shouldn't be given credit for having "done better" than Houston. Houston has been in the crapper for years. And unfortunately, their luck really ran out when Yao was bitten by the injury bug.
Phx? They've been a respectable organization for years. We were in the lottery while they battled teams like SA for the WCF. They're in a transition phase and won't be able to rebuild until they unload Nash.
Right now Burks, Favors, and Kanter collectively are not qualified to carry DWill jock strap. So, I would withhold the judgement at the moment. Kanter was 3d overall pick and has not done much. Favors is doing better, but did not improve at all from last year. Now, I hope in a few years they will be better, but DWill, whom he traded, is an elite player, so for that trade to be justified, these high picks need to improve quite a bit. Until they do, I don't see KOC as a bigger winner here, or executive of the year.
NotDeadYet
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How many teams lose a 'super-star' and their HC one year and make the playoffs the NEXT year?? Denver lost Crymelo, but kept George Carl, who BTW is a very good coach. KoC has done a remarkable job...
freakazoid
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Agree. A little strategy in the games against GS would have been genius. Losing both those picks over one game would be a major fail and lost opportunity. Other than that, KOC has done a great job, and I consider him to be one of the best in the biz.
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Jazz's problem in the past have not been about getting back to the playoffs quickly, but to get over the hump and become a finals contender after they have become a playoff team. That's where KOC's real challenge lies. He has done a good job of getting the pieces quickly to make us a playoffs team again like he did earlier to bridge the Stockalone era to the Deron era. But having done that, we cannot stay a perennial 4-6th seeds who get eliminated before WCF every year for the next 5-7 years. That would be a failure considering we already have 4 lotto picks on this team.
Getting 2 more lottery picks isn't going to make us a contender. It may make us a decent team, but eventually those lottery picks that make us so good would have to be given contracts, we can't give every talented player we have a contract. We need to start giving our base (Favors and Hayward) the experience they need.