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Science vs. Creationism

PearlWatson said:
Here's an altered Ken Ham illustration.

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Why you showing this idiot's diagram? Delusional drawing with no value whatsoever.
 
AKMVP said:
They gain features which helps them. Snake losing legs has better chances of fitting in smaller caves. Whale losing legs swims better. It gives them advantage and better survival options. Who said it needs to be more complex to be advantageous?
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Supposed "vestigials" aren't examples of gaining features...they are examples of losing features

It needs to be more complex to support the theory.
 
PearlWatson said:
It needs to be more complex to support the theory.
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Vestigial organs prove organism changes through numerous generations which happened due to environmental or other influences. Which hammers nail into coffin of creationism delusion as according to "creation" belief God made humans just the way they are today.
 
AKMVP said:
Vestigial organs prove organism changes through numerous generations which happened due to environmental or other influences. Which hammers nail into coffin of creationism delusion as according to "creation" belief God made humans just the way they are today.
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The standard definition of ‘vestigial’ is an organ that once was useful in an animal’s evolutionary past, but that now is useless or very close to useless. The list of vestigial organs in humans has shrunk from 180 in 1890 to 0 in 1999. Evidently to salvage this once-critical support for evolution, a new revisionistic definition of a vestigial structure is now sometimes used. This definition involves the idea that a vestigial organ is any part of an organism that has diminished in size during its evolution because the function it served decreased in importance or became totally unnecessary. This definition is problematic because it is vague and would allow almost every structure in humans to be labelled as vestigial.
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Jerry Bergman, Ph.D., Biology

There ain't any "vestigial" organs in humans, but even if there were they would support genetic entropy which "creationists" believe in.

"Creationists" say all life is going through mutation loss (genetic entropy), including humans.
 
AKMVP said:
Vestigial organs prove organism changes through numerous generations which happened due to environmental or other influences. Which hammers nail into coffin of creationism delusion as according to "creation" belief God made humans just the way they are today.
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FOR many years various organs of the human body were called “vestigial” by evolutionists, that is, the last vestiges of organs that supposedly once had a use, but were no longer needed because of the claimed advance up the evolutionary ladder.

Of interest in this regard is the small gland that is shaped like a pinecone and hence called the “pineal” gland. Though it is located near the center of the brain, it is not part of the brain. “Until very recently” it was thought that “the pineal in man served no biologic purpose and was merely a vestige,” reported the journal Hospital Practice.

Now the pineal has been shown “to possess a unique ability to produce melatonin.” This is a substance that affects the brain, the reproductive system, as well as the pituitary, adrenal and thyroid glands.

Scientists believe that in man the pineal gland “exerts a control over the body, specifically by regulating the body clock.” The pineal does this evidently by secreting various chemicals. Thus it is believed that the pineal gland may chemically supervise many of the involuntary activities of the human body, such as helping to make body temperatures increase during the daytime and decrease at night.

Another gland long thought to be useless is the thymus. In an article entitled “The ‘Useless’ Gland That Guards Our Health,” Reader’s Digest stated: “For at least 2000 years, doctors have puzzled over the function of a pinkish-grey bit of tissue lying just below the neck and behind the breastbone—the thymus gland. . Modern physicians came to regard it, like the appendix, as a useless, vestigial organ which had lost its original purpose, if indeed it ever had one.

“In the last few years, however, the dogged detective work of a small band of Americans, Britons, Australians and Swedes have cracked the thymus enigma. These men have proved that, far from being useless, the thymus is really the master gland that regulates the intricate immunity system which protects us against infectious diseases. .

But is the thymus the only organ regulating our immunity system? Recent experiments have led researchers to believe that the appendix, tonsils and adenoids [once these too were tagged as vestigial] may also figure in the antibody responses.

...however, there does seem to be one "vestigial" organ clearly discovered in one of our posters who frequents this thread! He goes by the handle of "AKMVP".....and according to reputable authorities the vestigial organ possessed by him is his BRAIN!

So as not to get an infraction, rather that post what they have discovered through there studies, I will just direct you to a site that perfectly describes his condition, so you can hear it for yourself!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siEfy0ThOSY
 
AKMVP said:
LOL, you guys crack me up. We talked about in evolution thread now you coming back again with same nonsense?
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You shouldn't be surprised that we have the same arguments against claims of "vestigial" organs every time you bring it up.
 
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