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Science vs. Creationism

AKMVP said:
Obviously there are some corrupt scientists in the world, but 99.86%?
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“Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
― Mark Twain

“Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.”
― Leo Tolstoy

“I don't imagine you will dispute the fact that at present the stupid people are in an absolutely overwhelming majority all the world over.”
― Henrik Ibsen

“The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatsoever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widely spread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.”
― Bertrand Russell

“I want to pause here and talk about this notion of consensus, and the rise of what has been called consensus science. I regard consensus science as an extremely pernicious development that ought to be stopped cold in its tracks. Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you're being had.
There is no such thing as consensus science. If it's consensus, it isn't science. If it's science, it isn't consensus. Period.”
― Michael Crichton
 
carolinajazz said:
“Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
― Mark Twain

“Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.”
― Leo Tolstoy

“I don't imagine you will dispute the fact that at present the stupid people are in an absolutely overwhelming majority all the world over.”
― Henrik Ibsen

“The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatsoever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widely spread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.”
― Bertrand Russell

“I want to pause here and talk about this notion of consensus, and the rise of what has been called consensus science. I regard consensus science as an extremely pernicious development that ought to be stopped cold in its tracks. Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you're being had.
There is no such thing as consensus science. If it's consensus, it isn't science. If it's science, it isn't consensus. Period.”
― Michael Crichton
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By this idiotic logic, CarolinaJazz refuted his own point. Since the majority of the people in the world believe in a religion, then it must be wrong.

Keep 'em coming.
 
carolinajazz said:
“Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
― Mark Twain

“Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.”
― Leo Tolstoy

“I don't imagine you will dispute the fact that at present the stupid people are in an absolutely overwhelming majority all the world over.”
― Henrik Ibsen

“The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatsoever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widely spread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.”
― Bertrand Russell

“I want to pause here and talk about this notion of consensus, and the rise of what has been called consensus science. I regard consensus science as an extremely pernicious development that ought to be stopped cold in its tracks. Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you're being had.
There is no such thing as consensus science. If it's consensus, it isn't science. If it's science, it isn't consensus. Period.”
― Michael Crichton
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The evidence settles the matter. The only people that don't see it that way are people that don't want to give up their literal interpretation of the bible.
 
PearlWatson said:
Whether one takes the rib/side story literally or figuratively the symbology remains the same.

rib/side=equality, partners, side by side
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None of major religious books ( Bible or Quran ) talk about equality between Men and Women. Quite the opposite. But keep interpreting it the way you like and not the way it is written.
 
One Brow said:
Lenski's experiments found beneficial mutations in some generations not present in their prior generations.
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If you start with grandpa, you've excluded great grandpa. If you start with great grandpa you've excluded gg grandpa and so forth.

But the point is you don't see new information, just reorganized information.
 
One Brow said:
Information theory says the opposite. Given a single letter "k" and some measure of information, then for any chosen amount of information m, you can create a string x where the difference in information between xk and xkx is larger than m. There is no limit to the amount of information that can be added by gene duplication.
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learn the meaning of duplication, and learn the difference between more and new.

When you make a copy of something you have more information, but not new information.
 
heyhey said:
The evidence settles the matter. The only people that don't see it that way are people that don't want to give up their literal interpretation of the bible.
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....don't know for sure if we have used this very interesting "youtube" video but I'm posting it right now for the enjoyment of us believers in "intelligent design" and to the dismay of those who "religiously" support the evolutionary belief of Darwin! I would give a c-note to have witnessed the answers that might have been given by the pseudo-intellectuals on this board, especially AKMVP had this microphone been shoved into his face and he would have had to answer the simple question asked! I suspect he would have used "Darwins finches" or possibly the "Peppered moths"! Oh, by the way, they are still finches and they are still moths!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tkq5j-qc8g
 
carolinajazz said:
....don't know for sure if we have used this very interesting "youtube" video but I'm posting it right now for the enjoyment of us believers in "intelligent design" and to the dismay of those who "religiously" support the evolutionary belief of Darwin! I would give a c-note to have witnessed the answers that might have been given by the pseudo-intellectuals on this board, especially AKMVP had this microphone been shoved into his face and he would have had to answer the simple question asked! I suspect he would have used "Darwins finches" or possibly the "Peppered moths"! Oh, by the way, they are still finches and they are still moths!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tkq5j-qc8g
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You are an idiot. Have you or anybody on the planet have OBSERVABLE evidence of intelligent design?

And by the way London underground mosquito bites your *** again. We observed new species appearing due to unique environmental change. Have a good day.
 
AKMVP said:
You are an idiot. Have you or anybody on the planet have OBSERVABLE evidence of intelligent design?

And by the way London underground mosquito bites your *** again. We observed new species appearing due to unique environmental change. Have a good day.
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....it's STILL A MOSQUITO you dumb A$$! I've seen some ignorant dumb A$$'s in my life but you take the cake! This interviewer would have chewed you up and spit you out...for the dumb A$$ you are! The only thing that's not "intelligently designed" is your pathetic BRAIN that fails to comprehend what intelligent design really is!
 
carolinajazz said:
....don't know for sure if we have used this very interesting "youtube" video but I'm posting it right now for the enjoyment of us believers in "intelligent design" and to the dismay of those who "religiously" support the evolutionary belief of Darwin! I would give a c-note to have witnessed the answers that might have been given by the pseudo-intellectuals on this board, especially AKMVP had this microphone been shoved into his face and he would have had to answer the simple question asked! I suspect he would have used "Darwins finches" or possibly the "Peppered moths"! Oh, by the way, they are still finches and they are still moths!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tkq5j-qc8g
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lol

We don't have a time machine so there is no way to know. der duh der

That's like not prosecuting someone for murder even though you have their dna on the murder weapon because you lack video of the incident. You are der duh der.
 
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