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Science vs. Creationism

carolinajazz said:
....so at best, AKMVP is a believer, not in "evolution" but in "de-evolution" if he wants to believe in all these "vestigial" organs! I suspect he might be on to something....if they ever examined what's inside his cranium!
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I can appreciate your jest.

He ain't a dumb guy any more than you are.

I'm guessing he is mostly motivated in this debate by his profession.
 
PearlWatson said:
The genetics professor I talked about that was critical of Darwinism lives in Poland, I believe, not USA.

Yes we are a strange country, because we haven't been taken over by godless communism and socialism...yet.
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Well communism was just a theory, it never happened in any country. And socialist and godless countries like Denmark, Finland Sweden and Norway left USA in dust when it comes to general quality of life.

https://lifestyle9.com/worlds-best-country-to-live-in-2013/10/
 
carolinajazz said:
....so at best, AKMVP is a believer, not in "evolution" but in "de-evolution" if he wants to believe in all these "vestigial" organs! !
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Who says I want to believe in vestigial organs? They are established fact. Thus I KNOW about it and see it every day in front of my eyes.
 
AKMVP said:
I would like to see what explanation creationists would come up after watching this video on very interesting bird Hoatzin from S. America. Another living proof on evolution, another nail in coffin of creationism.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00bm2c7
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...oh, so now were back to using that old "missing link" between birds and reptiles Archeopteryx....that strange birdlike creature the size of a crow....that once glided over an ancient Bavarian lake and was brought down by a "gust of wind" and drowned in the shallow waters below! This extinct genus is comprised of two fossilized bird-like creatures found in stratified rocks in Bavaria, Germany!

To simply call Archeopteryx another of the many UNUSUAL creatures, and place it in a special classification....has never occurred to evolutionists! Rather, it is seized upon by dumb-witty bird brains like AKMVP as a "connecting link" between birds and reptiles!

The fossil "record" concerning the hazy hypothesis that supposes birds came from reptiles is much like dozens of feet of missing film in a motion picture! Where are all the many hundreds of very different creatures which would have represented the intermediate stages of development?

And remember, IF these notions of evolution could possibly be true....these "intermediate" would be NOWHERE NEAR so well equipped to survive as the "fully developed" ones! That means that if it took only a "sharp gust" of wind to bring down Archeopteryx, his imaginary ancestors would have been falling out of the skies like BRICKS! And the fossil record would contain far more "intermediate" species that it does of the ones which were supposedly "better equipped" to survive! BUT THERE ARE NO "INTERMEDIATE" SPECIES!

That's why ornithologists and evolutionists have to admit that "strangely, few people would suspect that the closest living relatives of the birds are crocodiles"!

True!.....FEW PEOPLE would ever suspect such a strange thing......because all the combined powers of OBSERVATION, COMPARISON, DEDUCTION, REASON & LOGIC put together with the ACTUAL EVIDENCE prove otherwise!!!
 
AKMVP said:
Better word would be convinced by it. I don't even need fossils to know the evolution is true. Live animals give me that proof daily.
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If seeing is believing for you, you definitely don't KNOW that Darwinism is true.

You didn't see any of it happen. You simply have strong faith that it happened.
 
AKMVP said:
Who says I want to believe in vestigial organs? They are established fact. Thus I KNOW about it and see it every day in front of my eyes.
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You see the features and BELIEVE they are "vestigial."
I see the features and BELIEVE they are designed.
 
PearlWatson said:
You see the features and BELIEVE they are "vestigial."
I see the features and BELIEVE they are designed.
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So you see hind declaws in one dog and believe it is design and you see other dog with no hind declaws and believe it is designed as well? Ain't making sense to me at all my friend.
 
PearlWatson said:
If seeing is believing for you, you definitely don't KNOW that Darwinism is true.

You didn't see any of it happen. You simply have strong faith that it happened.
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I do not need faith to know it is happening. Antibiotics we used 20 years ago are not effective anymore. MRSA, MRSP and other infections are becoming more and more prevalent.
And getting 4 wisdom teeth pulled since they had no room in my jaw and were causing constant pain and gum infection was very unforgettable experience. If I had believed in designer I would have cursed at it very badly during that time.
Do you still have your " beautifully designed" wisdom teeth Pearl?
 
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carolinajazz said:
...oh, so now were back to using that old "missing link" between birds and reptiles Archeopteryx....that strange birdlike creature the size of a crow....that once glided over an ancient Bavarian lake and was brought down by a "gust of wind" and drowned in the shallow waters below! This extinct genus is comprised of two fossilized bird-like creatures found in stratified rocks in Bavaria, Germany!

To simply call Archeopteryx another of the many UNUSUAL creatures, and place it in a special classification....has never occurred to evolutionists! Rather, it is seized upon by dumb-witty bird brains like AKMVP as a "connecting link" between birds and reptiles!

The fossil "record" concerning the hazy hypothesis that supposes birds came from reptiles is much like dozens of feet of missing film in a motion picture! Where are all the many hundreds of very different creatures which would have represented the intermediate stages of development?

And remember, IF these notions of evolution could possibly be true....these "intermediate" would be NOWHERE NEAR so well equipped to survive as the "fully developed" ones! That means that if it took only a "sharp gust" of wind to bring down Archeopteryx, his imaginary ancestors would have been falling out of the skies like BRICKS! And the fossil record would contain far more "intermediate" species that it does of the ones which were supposedly "better equipped" to survive! BUT THERE ARE NO "INTERMEDIATE" SPECIES!
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Are you really that dumb? Who was talking about Archaeopteryx you moron, you wasted all this time to write all that useless gibberish without even getting to the point I was making. And even if I want to talk about Archaeopteryx you can't deny that it had feathers. It was dinosaur with feathers. Since birds evolved from dinosaurs it is not difficult to see striking similarities to both dinosaurs and early birds.
I was making point about HOATZIN. Not fossil but living evidence of evolution. See video one more time.
 
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