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Science vs. Creationism

So are you going to grow some balls and answer about koalas? Or creationism websites run out of excuses to defend their myths:)?
Was a pair of koalas on ark or not?

.....whatever was brought on to the Ark....was sufficient at some point in time to produce Koalas. What's the big deal? Your theory of evolution explains Koalas came into existence as ancestors of what/who/and how again? All of your cockamamie ideas of "natural selection" "survival of the fittest" "mutations" and millions and millions and millions and millions of years developing, has already been disproved by simple observation and true science! You want high ranking scientific brainiacs to help you figure this out? I submit to you this! It's a critical examination of the development of Darwinian theory by scientists, chemists and mathematicians, affirming the suspicion that the theory of evolution is not based on science but is instead a pseudo-scientific construction to justify a materialistic world view.

The documentary includes discussions of Haeckel's forging of the embryonic theory, Mendel's experiments, Pasteur's and Miller's experiements, the Table of the Elements, amino-acids, atoms, fossils, DNA content, earth's suitability and much more.

It's a little lengthy, but since you evolutionist have ALL THE TIME in the world take a look see!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7DV4foC2lk
 
You talk like crusades did not happen.

you talk like Islamic crusades/conquests did not happen.

I don't suppose either movement, at the grass roots, involved particularly empathetic, tolerant, and conscientious notions about doing good to their enemies. In the case of the Christians, it was a distinct spate of cognitive dissonance in contradiction to the specific teachings of Christ. In their defense, I would note that anyone who thinks their way of life is under attack with threats against their families, their beliefs, and their lives, is going to resort to arms.
 
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.....whatever was brought on to the Ark....was sufficient at some point in time to produce Koalas. What's the big deal? ]

Ok so lets be clear here.. just be patient I will tell you whats the big deal when we done with Koalas.
So you saying Koala ancestors where on the ark 4000 years ago. Means koalas evolved from some other mammal into today's marsupial Koala just in 4000 years according to your Biblical story? Could you please continue with this unique theory and explain how ancestor of Koala ended up in Australia after flood? Because if you are correct Australia 4000 years ago was dead continent after it was flooded.
 
In the case of the Christians, it was a distinct spate of cognitive dissonance in contradiction to the specific teachings of Christ. In their defense, I would note that anyone who thinks their way of life is under attack with threats against their families, their beliefs, and their lives, is going to resort to arms.

babe, have you watched movie Agora? I strongly recommend it for you.
 
Just to continue destroying Carolinajazz myths... what happened to aboriginal Australian people after flood? How did they repopulated? Are they newly evolved from Noah's relatives which somehow inhabited Australia 4000 years ago after the flood? How about Japanese? American natives? Inuits in Greenland? So if you believer of Noah's ark myth relatives of Noah's ark survivors somehow migrated all over the world and changed their skin color, eye shapes, hair, etc to turn into today's variety of nations and races in just a 4000 years?
Honestly, tales about leprechauns, trolls, unicorns, vampires and werewolves are way more believable...
 
babe, have you watched movie Agora? I strongly recommend it for you.

I haven't seen it, though I think I've heard of it. I wiki'd it, and read some reviews. Some critics seem to think the point of the movie is not directed specifically at Catholic adherents but at ignorance in generally fundamentalist zealots. Could be just as relevant to marxist ideologues, or any other ignorant zealots you could imagine. I'll have to see it myself to judge it for myself.

I am aware that real intellectual scholarship disappeared under Catholic statism in Europe until after the black plague restored the concept of how valuable the lower classes were to the elites, and in turn gave the peasants a new sense of their own abilities. The Renaissance followed, naturally.

I am afraid that our darkening intellectual age is turning out too many ignorant zealots who have somehow missed out on the concept of human dignity and human worth and human liberty under the crush of progressive New World Order statism.

I value my ancestry that traces back on some lines to the Berbers in North Africa who became caught up in the Islamic expansion and ended up in Spain, where after a whole lot of fighting, it all resulted in a blending of cultures and traditions to some extent, with some of the ancestors I speak of converting to Christianity. These became significant contributing lines to British royalty and possibly infused England with some appreciation for arts and science. . . . . though not so thoroughly as would have averted a whole lot of ignorant religious zealotry in support of English statism.

It pains me to hear of libraries being burned by ideological or religious mobs of ignoramuses. I'd be just as pained if todays Christians burned all the research that supports understanding of life in the context of ongoing genetic transformations.

I'm pretty sure there were people around for tens of thousands of years before this present age, and I don't quibble about the evidence. The former Lake Bonneville was here until about 10,000 years ago, and whatever floods affected Babylon or any other pre-historic civilization in the Mediterranean Basin had no impact here. Pretty clear to me that the writers of the Bible incorporated verbal legend traditions into their account, not necessarily "the word of God". I watched the movie about the Ark on the side of Mt. Ararat,too. Don't know what I think about that. Haven't been there.

I and my kids have hiked up to the caves where archaeologists have done several excavation projects establishing it was inhabited ten thousand years ago. Lake Bonneville's shoreline would have been a lush grassland in that age, with clear mountain streams teaming with Bonneville trout, lots of deer. There were also saber toothed tigers, woolley mammoths, camels, pterodactyls, and boat-based trade routes throughout all the lakes in the Great Basin.

Too much to ask for/demand that some goatherd scribbler priests in Jerusalem knew all about all that.
 
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you talk like Islamic crusades/conquests did not happen.

I don't suppose either movement, at the grass roots, involved particularly empathetic, tolerant, and conscientious notions about doing good to their enemies. In the case of the Christians, it was a distinct spate of cognitive dissonance in contradiction to the specific teachings of Christ. In their defense, I would note that anyone who thinks their way of life is under attack with threats against their families, their beliefs, and their lives, is going to resort to arms.

You can add them to the discussion as well. I only said Crusades because I was talking to Christian demographic. Crusades were against Christian Values. Jihads were against Islamic Values. Wars did happen before and after Judaism, Christianity Or Islam. So the values of major religions didn't change much.

And just to say Vikings were barbarous because they hadn't met Christianity is absurd while most of the records were written by Non-Vikings. Anyway there are many factors in the development of Scandinavian countries. Which I can't explain because I got to get to the school.(Great Ending. May be I should try this at an uni essay.)

I am sorry for the half-assed reply though. I will try to come back here but this thread and the longest thread ever is hard threads to follow. Have a good day.
 
You can add them to the discussion as well. I only said Crusades because I was talking to Christian demographic. Crusades were against Christian Values. Jihads were against Islamic Values. Wars did happen before and after Judaism, Christianity Or Islam. So the values of major religions didn't change much.

And just to say Vikings were barbarous because they hadn't met Christianity is absurd while most of the records were written by Non-Vikings. Anyway there are many factors in the development of Scandinavian countries. Which I can't explain because I got to get to the school.(Great Ending. May be I should try this at an uni essay.)

I am sorry for the half-assed reply though. I will try to come back here but this thread and the longest thread ever is hard threads to follow. Have a good day.

Your point about my all-too-shallow comment about the Vikings being absurd is well-taken. I was, of course, being a bit "half-assed" myself.

Having some red-head Scot ancestry myself probably means I should figure I'm. . . in some small measure. . . . a Viking myself.

When you have the time to do a good job of it, feel welcome to post your treatise in the longest thread ever.

I don't expect to ever end that, because I'm sure I will never know it all. I don't think anyone does, but we can always go on with every new day, and apply ourselves to every new problem we face.

There is nothing new about it, it's always been like that.

We never really get a fresh start in life, and whatever the past has been, it will cast both light and shadow on our present. It should help us to keep it in mind, whether good or bad.

I hope it is the story that never ends.
 
Creationists should be spat on and then locked away for life

You would have to be insane to believe any of the garbage trotted out by the worlds religions

Turn the other cheek? Rubbish!

Thou shalt not kill? Total crap!

Love they neighbor? Puh-leeze, only if she is 18 and available when the wife is away and accepts cash...uh...or trade.
 
The Vikings, before they became Christians, were of a wholly different character. They sailed around raiding the villages along the coasts of many nations, taking what they pleased.

You really shouldn't rely on vague notions put forth by the enemies of a culture to describe them.
 
We never really get a fresh start in life, and whatever the past has been, it will cast both light and shadow on our present. It should help us to keep it in mind, whether good or bad.

Can you expound a little more on this statement?

Also, a few questions.

Are you a believer in pre-destination?
Do you believe I can never lead a righteous life because I'm an Atheist and believe in science?
Do you believe I have no moral compass as an Atheist?

Thanks for your time.
 
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