Start Mitchell at the Point.

[Quin's Murderface]

I just don't think we can maximize DM and Ricky while they are on the court together. They can work but Ricky running the action doesn't scare the defense as much as Joe and DM in my opinion. He can initiate and help carry the load... work with the second unit more... but when he comes back I want him more offball (might do well as a spot up option in the corner)... obviously this is not his ideal use.

So does he limit the wear and tear so much on donovan that the limited offball value is worth the price to keep him? Is he a better defender than Royce?

I really like this point. This is the exact problem with Ricky/Donovan. The reason I like Dante more (even though he's not a great shooter either) is that he is probably the best Jazz player at breaking the paint consistently in PnR. He's a threat that has to be accounted for, and collapses the defense consistently. This last month or so he was making the right plays pretty much every time as well. I think DM and Exum could work pretty well sharing some of those responsibilities (Exum more often early, and Mitchell near the end of halves/quarters). This would allow Joe to spot up a bit more instead of having to carry such a huge load all the time. He looks exhausted having to handle it so much. I think as he gets older they are going to want to start tapering his minutes more.

Anyway, I'm on team move on from Ricky because I really believe he is limiting the team's ceiling. He's a good player, but not a good fit on the court.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I liked you post, but the bolded part made me think of Jiminy Cricket: "When you wish upon a star..."

Not those specific guys... those positions.

 

[Sandman822]

But the player he assists the most is favors despite the fact that favors plays less minutes than DM and Rudy

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https://stats.nba.com/player/204060/passes-dash/

He might have the most assists to Favors (it would be super tight between him and Gobert), but he passes the ball to Rubio, Gobert and Crowder more often throughout the season than he does to Favors.

 

[fishonjazz]

https://stats.nba.com/player/204060/passes-dash/

He might have the most assists to Favors (it would be super tight between him and Gobert), but he passes the ball to Rubio, Gobert and Crowder more often throughout the season than he does to Favors.

Could part of that be because Rubio gobert and Crowder play more minutes than favors and also play more minutes on court with Ingles?

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[Sandman822]

Could part of that be because Rubio gobert and Crowder play more minutes than favors and also play more minutes on court with Ingles?

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Considering Ingles plays a lot of minutes on that bench unit with Crowder/Favs as the 4/5 combination and Rubio/Mitchell/Gobert all off the floor I don't think that is too much of a factor, but you're right in saying it would influence it to a degree.

But also watching that bench unit the eye test would suggest that Favors gets more of his passes from Exum than from Ingles in those bench minutes together.

 

[Sandman822]

https://stats.nba.com/player/202324/passes-dash/

Favors receives passes from Rubio the most often, followed by Joe. Exum is a distant 3rd.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Is Favs on this team next year? I’m guessing no.

 

[fishonjazz]

Considering Ingles plays a lot of minutes on that bench unit with Crowder/Favs as the 4/5 combination and Rubio/Mitchell/Gobert all off the floor I don't think that is too much of a factor, but you're right in saying it would influence it to a degree.

But also watching that bench unit the eye test would suggest that Favors gets more of his passes from Exum than from Ingles in those bench minutes together.

Also I think I read your link wrong. I think it accounted for minutes played and minutes on court together. So I was wrong anyway.

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[fishonjazz]

Is Favs on this team next year? I’m guessing no.

I think it's like 50/50. Who has the option next year anyway? I think it's a team option iirc.

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[JAZZGASM]

I think it's like 50/50. Who has the option next year anyway? I think it's a team option iirc.

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It is a team option. I agree it is 50/50, but if they can't get a better stretch 4 replacement, I hope they keep him. Favs does a lot of good things for the team.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Is Favs on this team next year? I’m guessing no.

Only scenario where Favors is still on the team is if Utah trades for a guy like D-Lo.

 

[gregbroncs]

I think Favors is more likely on the team next year than Rubio.