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Targeted Shooting of Democratic Legislators


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Sadly, this will be no different than the Russian interference of our 2016 election, the big lie and Jan 6, and vaccines. The right wing propaganda apparatus is going into high gear to disown this assassin and make it sound like Democrats and Jews errrr I mean globalists organized this. And like those previous incidents, the fantasy will become a reality for 30 percent of the population, no matter what the facts are.

It’s infuriating

And as an active card carrying LDS member, it’s really disheartening that church leadership doesn’t take a public stand against clear liars and bad faith actors like Mike Lee. With “Christians” like that, who needs enemies? The greatest detriments to the body of Christ aren’t critics of Christianity, but its loudest megaphones. Why would anyone want to join a church that coddles pieces of **** like Mike Lee and the Bundy KKKlan? They make a mockery of the religion.
 
I also read that he had strong anti LGBT views. I bet if you wanted to dig far enough (it wouldn’t be hard) you’d find he’d have interesting views on race mixing, women’s roles, and immigration. Anyone want to bet he likely had paranoid views on “globalist elites” who were controlling everything? There’s a pretty clear pattern emerging from these radicalized right wing assassins and mass shooters. Which is why right wing media is trying so hard to flood the zone with **** so they can Seth Rich this assassination.

Just look at what fellow Utah Mormon and senator Mike Lee is doing:

View: https://bsky.app/profile/aselrod.bsky.social/post/3lro6pwkmtc2j


You just don’t see this on the left. You don’t see a concerted propaganda apparatus and senators doing this type of disinformation.

This deserves a second look. It was attacked at the time because the right didn’t find these facts to be convenient. But so much of our current situation is based on this problem and this problem alone; the radicalization of the American right. I saw it first hand here in Utah when Obama was first elected. Suddenly parents didn’t want their children to watch the president’s address to school children. Suddenly I noticed an increase in racist comments and jokes. Suddenly people wanted to see the birth certificate of the president, something never before requested. Wonder why? Suddenly the tea party movement came About.

One of the foremost experts on domestic terrorism, Daryl Johnson began his career as a civilian in the U.S. Army and has held several government positions, most recently as a senior analyst at the Department of Homeland Security. In 2009, he wrote an internal Homeland Security report warning that right-wing extremism was on the rise in the US. When the report leaked, the political backlash was immediate and the report was retracted. In 2012, he testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee on hate crimes and the threat of domestic extremism. He is now the owner of DT Analytics, a private consulting firm for law enforcement, academia, and other organizations, and the author of Hateland: A Long, Hard Look at America’s Extremist Heart (Prometheus Books, 2019) and Right-Wing Resurgence: How a Domestic Terrorism Threat Is Being Ignored (Rowman & Littlefield, 2012).


That strange looking dude actually looks like a copper i used to work with!
 
Sadly, this will be no different than the Russian interference of our 2016 election, the big lie and Jan 6, and vaccines
I keep forgetting facts don’t matter. I can see weaving a conspiracy out of it, and just incorporating it into the narrative. Facts still need to be fully developed, but the statement from the guy he roomed with a few days a week, is from someone who should know, friends since childhood. Right now, MAGA and it’s trolls are engaged in a desperate losing effort….


View: https://x.com/mattmfm/status/1934031531070116003
 
Attended Trump rallies, deeply religious, conservative..…


The man accused of assassinating the top Democrat in the Minnesota House held deeply religious and politically conservative views, telling a congregation in Africa two years ago that the U.S. was in a “bad place” where most churches didn’t oppose abortion.

Vance Luther Boelter, 57, was captured late Sunday following a two-day manhunt authorities described as the largest in the state’s history. Boelter is accused of impersonating a police officer and gunning down former House Speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark, in their home outside Minneapolis. Democratic Gov. Tim Walz described the shooting as “a politically motivated assassination.”

Sen. John Hoffman, also a Democrat, and his wife, Yvette, were shot earlier by the same gunman at their home nearby but survived.

Friends and former colleagues interviewed by AP described Boelter as a devout Christian who attended an evangelical church and went to campaign rallies for President Donald Trump. Records show Boelter registered to vote as a Republican while living in Oklahoma in 2004 before moving to Minnesota where voters don’t list party affiliation.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaiQipc64_M
 
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Go to Senator Lee's communication page and post a demand that he retract his lies regarding the shooting. Also, do the same on Senator Curtis's page, demanding that he hold Mike Lee accountable for his lies. I used the comment that I wonder how he answers the temple recommend question "Do you strive to be honest in all that you do?" and asked where his Christian love and empathy are for the families who are in pain after the shootings and why he didn't just offer his condolences and his sympathies, as I am sure that is what Jesus would do.


We need to all be speaking out as often as possible if we ever want anything to change. This is one way to do it.
 
trumpers are so easily fooled.
All you need to do is go on Twitter and tweet sometime and they believe it to be factual news.
Someone tweets that the shooter is "the left" and so they just believe that is true.
 
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trumpers are so easily fooled.
All you need to do is go on Twitter and tweet sometime and they believe it to be factual news.
Someone tweets that the shooter is "the left" and so they just believe that is true.
It helps that it is what they WANT to believe. Confirmation bias is the strongest of all the cognitive biases, followed very closely by, and feeding directly into, the Dunning-Kruger Effect. With both of those in full swing there is virtually no way to impress upon those so affected the error in their thinking.
 
trumpers are so easily fooled.
All you need to do is go on Twitter and tweet sometime and they believe it to be factual news.
Someone tweets that the shooter is "the left" and so they just believe that is true.
There is a poster here who I have on ignore that almost all of their posts are tweets from dubious sources and they post that trash here like they're dropping the mic. They are seemingly oblivious as to how stupid that makes them look.
 
There is a poster here who I have on ignore that almost all of their posts are tweets from dubious sources and they post that trash here like they're dropping the mic. They are seemingly oblivious as to how stupid that makes them look.
How ‘bout that? lol. But, it is Trump’s #1 lesson: you can talk your reality into existence, If you repeat it over…and over…and over…and over…


The shootings of two Minnesota state legislators and their spouses this weekend — resulting in the assassination of Rep. Melissa Hortman and her husband and grievous injury to Sen. John Hoffman and his wife, who were shot multiple times — is the latest horrific episode of political violence across the country.

It won’t be the last.

In the wake of the attacks, prominent right-wing social media commentators and conspiracy theorists were quick to falsely lay blame at the feet of victims and Democrats. After reports surfaced that Gov. Tim Walz had appointed the Minnesota shooting suspect, who was taken into custody Sunday, to a state workforce development board, right-wing social media personality Mike Cernovich asked on X whether Walz had unleashed an “assassin” and “ordered the political hit against a rival who voted against Walz’s plan to give free healthcare to illegals.” Elon Musk was swiftly mocked online after he blamed the “far left” for the killings in a post on X.


View: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1933950533813068181
 
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The man suspected of shooting and killing a Minnesota lawmaker and her husband as well as shooting and wounding a second lawmaker and his wife "stalked his victims like prey" and "shot them in cold blood," acting U.S. Attorney for the District of Minnesota Joseph Thompson said.

"His crimes are the stuff of nightmares," Thompson said at a news conference as he outlined the "chilling" details.

Vance Boelter, 57, is accused of killing Minnesota state Rep. Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark, and wounding state Sen. John Hoffman and his wife, Yvette.

Boelter, who was arrested overnight near his farm in Green Isle, Minnesota, is facing federal charges including stalking and firearms charges and state charges including first-degree murder, officials said.

Boelter allegedly surveilled his victims' homes and took notes, Thompson said. He allegedly had firearms and a list of 45 elected officials in notebooks in his car, Thompson said.

Two other lawmakers were spared that night, Thompson revealed as he outlined the four homes that Boelter allegedly drove to early Saturday.
 
Go to Senator Lee's communication page and post a demand that he retract his lies regarding the shooting. Also, do the same on Senator Curtis's page, demanding that he hold Mike Lee accountable for his lies. I used the comment that I wonder how he answers the temple recommend question "Do you strive to be honest in all that you do?" and asked where his Christian love and empathy are for the families who are in pain after the shootings and why he didn't just offer his condolences and his sympathies, as I am sure that is what Jesus would do.


We need to all be speaking out as often as possible if we ever want anything to change. This is one way to do it.
Yeah. This. Do this.

I haven't posted on this forum in seven years. Mostly because I stopped watching the NBA in general. It's become a league of 3-pt shooting with no defense and too many isolation plays, not interesting for me to watch anymore. That's another conversation.

But I saw what Mike Lee was saying about this stuff and thought, "Oh, yeah. That Utah Senator. What a ****ing piece of ****. I think I shall go onto the one Utah-related forum I'm familiar with and register what a ****ing despicable ******* I think this guy is."

I don't live in Utah, so I ain't his constituent. But seriously, **** Mike Lee all the way into the ****ing sun. And if you don't agree, you're a ****ing *******, too. If you live in Utah, it's your solemn duty to contact his office directly and tell him to **** off. Maybe if he gets enough contacts he will actually start to feel some shame for cheering on an assassination. Not likely, I know, but we're duty-bound to give it a shot. Calling is even better, here's the phone number from his website: (202) 224-5444. Light him up.
 
Go to Senator Lee's communication page and post a demand that he retract his lies regarding the shooting. Also, do the same on Senator Curtis's page, demanding that he hold Mike Lee accountable for his lies. I used the comment that I wonder how he answers the temple recommend question "Do you strive to be honest in all that you do?" and asked where his Christian love and empathy are for the families who are in pain after the shootings and why he didn't just offer his condolences and his sympathies, as I am sure that is what Jesus would do.


We need to all be speaking out as often as possible if we ever want anything to change. This is one way to do it.

You'll end up on a watch list as an enemy of the state.


What has been frightening has been their use of data to generate watch lists of "hostile" persons. If they're able to do this externally they must also be doing it internally. I wonder what privacy laws are being breached here?
 
Go to Senator Lee's communication page and post a demand that he retract his lies regarding the shooting. Also, do the same on Senator Curtis's page, demanding that he hold Mike Lee accountable for his lies. I used the comment that I wonder how he answers the temple recommend question "Do you strive to be honest in all that you do?" and asked where his Christian love and empathy are for the families who are in pain after the shootings and why he didn't just offer his condolences and his sympathies, as I am sure that is what Jesus would do.


We need to all be speaking out as often as possible if we ever want anything to change. This is one way to do it.

Here is the start of the article:

Sen. Mike Lee of Utah was confronted by a Senate colleague Monday over his social media posts that blamed the Minnesota shootings over the weekend that killed a former Democratic legislative leader on “Marxists.”

Democratic Sen. Tina Smith, a friend of murdered state Rep. Melissa Hortman, spoke to the Utah Republican in a hallway off the Senate floor during evening votes.




“I wanted him to know how much pain that caused me and the other people in my state, and I think around the country, who think that this was a brutal attack,” Smith told reporters afterward. “I don’t know whether Senator Lee thought fully through what it was — you have to ask him — but I needed him to hear from me directly what impact I think his cruel statement had on me, his colleague.”

Lee on Sunday morning posted two messages on his X account that appeared to associate the perpetrator with political causes on the left. “This is what happens,” one said, “When Marxists don’t get their way.” Another included a reference to Minnesota’s Democratic governor, Tim Walz.

Smith’s personal confrontation was among a wave of criticism directed at Lee from Democrats. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer on Monday demanded he remove the posts and apologize to the victims and their families, calling them “reckless and beneath the dignity of his office.”

“For a senator to fan the flames of division with falsities while the killer was still on the loose is deeply irresponsible,” he said.

Separately, a top aide to Smith wrote an email to members of Lee’s staff lambasting the senator for having “exploited the murder of a lifetime public servant and her husband to post some sick burns about Democrats.”

“Using the office of US Senator to post not just one but a series of jokes about an assassination—is that a successful day of work on Team Lee?” Ed Shelleby wrote. “Did you come into the office Monday and feel proud of the work you did over the weekend?” Semafor first reported Shelleby’s letter.

Lee declined to comment to reporters at the Capitol, and a spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment. Lee’s personal X account, @BasedMikeLee, has increasingly become a forum for the senator’s sharply partisan and sometimes conspiratorial views.

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Mike Lee is the scum of the earth. Among the worst that Christianity and Mormonism have to offer. I wouldn't put him in the same tier as MTG, the mega-bitch of Christian Nationalism and Fascism, but he is high in the 2nd tier of ****** Christians.
 
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