Team starting to crack

[mellow]

Looks like the team is about to crack,

From Tribjazz:

Clear divide between postgame reactions of Corbin and Jazz. Corbin said he's not overly concerned and team will fix things by regrouping. ..
... Several Jazz players, including Bell, Miles and Millsap, said Utah doesn't have an identity and nothing is working. Millsap was very ..direct. Said it hasn't felt good on the court for a while and Jazz don't know what they're doing. To fix problem, he said, Utah ...... first has to figure out what it problem is. Right now, team doesn't know and there's been no explanation.

Miles said he can see Jazz's bad body language. Shoulders slump and effort goes south when shots don't fall. Then everything snowballs.

Lockedonsports:

Very interesting talking 2 players. They all talk about missing shots and getting taken out.

From Sltrib:
C.J. Miles discussed postgame Utah's "slumped shoulders." Some players showed the worst body language seen all season.

Milsap: "It just feels all bad, man. It’s not a good feeling at all. We want to try to stay positive as much as possible. But things are just not going right right now."

Raja Bell: Bell was overheard near the scorer’s table talking to reserve point guard Earl Watson, pounding home the Jazz’s poor execution. "We consistently do dumb [crap]," Bell said. "Wcan’t even help it."
Raja Bell's "We do dumb [crap]" in-game comment to Earl Watson took the cake Tuesday. But he had at least two other moments where his frustration boiled over. When walking by a Jazz broadcaster, a fiery Bell complained about "[freaking] screens." Then he yelled out "[Freak]!" and slammed his hand down on the scorer's table after Utah allowed a blow by.
Raja: “ I don't know that we know who we are as a team.”

 

[//r00t 4 Jazz]

This is the fine line a coach has to walk, can't yank players for missing shots but need to emphasize being yanked for not playing team D or not running the offense. Now the player comprehension and perception of why they got yanked he may not be able to control.
With vets it can be tricky for several reasons, sense of entitlement, leadership provided, hierarchy, locker room presence for those reasons and more it can be more harmful to a team if a coach losses a vet as apposed to a rookie or 2nd year player.

 

[larryselbows]

After watching last night's game it does sort of feel like the wheels are about to fall off, similar to last year.

 

[zman1527]

The one big question mark I have at this time is whether Ty's hands are tied regarding possible trades. Does he have to play certain guys to keep them in the trade spotlight? Harris? Howard? Whoever.

But this does not bode well. They do not know who they are. Ty has come across as uncertain and indecisive all along, and this is an echo of that. For example, why has he not decided on a captain? What is he waiting for?

Agreed about the shooting thing. Taking bad shots is one thing but getting yanked for just missing them is another. The one time I thought he really should have yanked guys was the first few minutes against the Clips when they went highlight real dunks on their first 5 possesions. Not even a timeout.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

We are a team of softies without Raja.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The one big question mark I have at this time is whether Ty's hands are tied regarding possible trades. Does he have to play certain guys to keep them in the trade spotlight? Harris? Howard? Whoever.

But this does not bode well. They do not know who they are. Ty has come across as uncertain and indecisive all along, and this is an echo of that. For example, why has he not decided on a captain? What is he waiting for?

Agreed about the shooting thing. Taking bad shots is one thing but getting yanked for just missing them is another. The one time I thought he really should have yanked guys was the first few minutes against the Clips when they went highlight real dunks on their first 5 possesions. Not even a timeout.

Has anyone shown captain like ability? You don't just anoint a captain for the sake of doing so.

 

[dma]

The one big question mark I have at this time is whether Ty's hands are tied regarding possible trades. Does he have to play certain guys to keep them in the trade spotlight? Harris? Howard? Whoever.

But this does not bode well. They do not know who they are. Ty has come across as uncertain and indecisive all along, and this is an echo of that. For example, why has he not decided on a captain? What is he waiting for?

Agreed about the shooting thing. Taking bad shots is one thing but getting yanked for just missing them is another. The one time I thought he really should have yanked guys was the first few minutes against the Clips when they went highlight real dunks on their first 5 possesions. Not even a timeout.

agreed when does Ty stop getting a free pass because of last years situation and no training camp. Other teams have been through hard times, every team had the same amount of training camp time this year. ..
I want to see Ty succeed and I'm not calling for his head but I'm not overly impressed with how he runs the team ont the court. No one seems to know their role.

 

[larryselbows]

I have minimal sympathy for a group of twenty-year-olds that are more rich than anyone of us can comprehend. They are famous, they have virtually every advantage that society can possibly give a person, and yet, they can't consistently "try hard", or consistently hit a jumper, or pout when they get benched because they are not playing well.

#improveeveryday

Give me a break...

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

agreed when does Ty stop getting a free pass because of last years situation and no training camp. Other teams have been through hard times, every team had the same amount of training camp time this year. ..
I want to see Ty succeed and I'm not calling for his head but I'm not overly impressed with how he runs the team ont the court. No one seems to know their role.

Nate McMillan, who is considered one of the better coaches, has a veteran Blazer's team who has been together for a while doing pretty poorly. The lockout effect is real.

 

[gzimmer]

Like all mediocre teams, the Jazz think they're great when they win and show a complete lack of mental toughness when they lose.

 

[cowhide]

Personally, I am not surprised by this because it has happened a lot every year. Guys whining about minutes. How can you not know your roles? The rotations have been pretty consistent for the veterans. If you don't make shots and you are doing nothing else then why should you get minutes? This isn't necessarily a Ty problem, this is the same crap that got Jerry fed up with NBA players. So when the going gets tough or you don't get your minutes then you just pout on the bench. I don't care who it is. Get them out of town. The Jazz don't need weak-minded whiners on the team.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Personally, I am not surprised by this because it has happened a lot every year. Guys whining about minutes. How can you not know your roles? The rotations have been pretty consistent for the veterans. If you don't make shots and you are doing nothing else then why should you get minutes? This isn't necessarily a Ty problem, this is the same crap that got Jerry fed up with NBA players. So when the going gets tough or you don't get your minutes then you just pout on the bench. I don't care who it is. Get them out of town. The Jazz don't need weak-minded whiners on the team.

When you aren't winning this is what happens.