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The 2011 NBA Draft Lottery Thread, May 17th, 8:30 EST

Completely disagree. You are going to trade three players to move up ONE spot, and that spot isn't a sure thing? Awful trade.

In general I'd agree. But in this case, it's a second round pick (which admittedly the Jazz have been decent in finding decent players), Bell (who I wouldn't care if the Jazz got nothing in return for) and Tomic (who is the worst part of this deal, but I'm not sure if he'll ever play over here anyway), so if the Jazz love Williams enough that trade would make sense to me.
 
In general I'd agree. But in this case, it's a second round pick (which admittedly the Jazz have been decent in finding decent players), Bell (who I wouldn't care if the Jazz got nothing in return for) and Tomic (who is the worst part of this deal, but I'm not sure if he'll ever play over here anyway), so if the Jazz love Williams enough that trade would make sense to me.

I'll give you that. They are sad players.
 
Completely disagree. You are going to trade three players to move up ONE spot, and that spot isn't a sure thing? Awful trade.
#12 in a crapshoot and two pieces of junk is giving too much? Wow, I thought the proposal was shafting them.
 
I didn't say 12. I said giving up #3 pick and three players is too much.

Since you're swapping to move up, the #3 is included. I thought that was obvious. The deal I proposed that was OUT OF LINE is trading up a slot and using junk to do it. Beantown suggested #3 and #12 for #2 and #20 straight up which intrigues me. Except that I think Minnesota is trying to get veterans and not picks.
 
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