The Biden Administration and All Things Politics

[fishonjazz]

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So apparently someone has something about someone doing something. Well I hope that if its anything credible then the truth comes out and if wrongdoing was done then the perpetrator is held accountable. I say that without knowing what the evidence even is.

Now lets say that we had Bidens voice recorded on a phone call with the leader of another country telling that leader that he cant have the money that congress already had given to that country unless that country did a favor specifically for the benefit of Biden. Well that would be some very very excellent evidence of blackmail/extortion that was done only to benefit Biden personally and I would want him impeached and removed from office.

Or if we had evidence that Biden slept with a porn star before being elected and used his lawyer to pay the porn star off to keep her quiet about it in order to not hurt his chances to get elected then I would want Biden impeached and removed from office.

Or if we had a phone call of Biden calling an elected state official and telling him to find the exact amount of votes Biden would need to secure the electoral votes to win a particular state AND also had evidence that Biden and his supporters in government tried to put forth unfaithful electors AND Biden also spread a bunch of lies about an election being stolen AND stole money from his supporters via a stop the steal fund that he said would be used for court fees and instead simply pocketed AND then Biden held a rally in DC telling his mob of angry supporters to march to white house and fight AND then sat around for hours watching his supporters go the whitehouse and fight and cause destruction and chaos then I would want him to be impeached and removed from office.

Or if we had evidence that Biden took a bunch of documents home from the whitehouse that he was not allowed to take and then after being asked to return them didn't return them I would want him impeached and removed from office.

Especially if he had a history prior to becoming president of losing in court for things like using a charity fraudulently or creating a fake university. Sprinkle in some smoke of russia wanting biden to win an election and there being evidence of them helping him win an election. Then add in another court loss for the Biden organization losing in court for tax related issues.

I mean if Biden had all that going against him (and was also a complete narcissistic douchebag as well) then I would never ever ever vote for him and would never want him anywhere near our government and would prefer him to be in jail.

Of course if i was part of his cult then all that would only make me like him more and make me more likely to vote for him. I would use terms like hoax and witch hunt and say the justice system is simply out to get him and he is a poor little victim.


Instead I hear about someone having something about someone doing something and I want it to be investigated. Because im not in a cult and like people to be held accountable.

 

[SteakNEggs]

So apparently someone has something about someone doing something. Well I hope that if its anything credible then the truth comes out and if wrongdoing was done then the perpetrator is held accountable. I say that without knowing what the evidence even is.

Now lets say that we had Bidens voice recorded on a phone call with the leader of another country telling that leader that he cant have the money that congress already had given to that country unless that country did a favor specifically for the benefit of Biden. Well that would be some very very excellent evidence of blackmail/extortion that was done only to benefit Biden personally and I would want him impeached and removed from office.

Or if we had evidence that Biden slept with a porn star before being elected and used his lawyer to pay the porn star off to keep her quiet about it in order to not hurt his chances to get elected then I would want Biden impeached and removed from office.

Or if we had a phone call of Biden calling an elected state official and telling him to find the exact amount of votes Biden would need to secure the electoral votes to win a particular state AND also had evidence that Biden and his supporters in government tried to put forth unfaithful electors AND Biden also spread a bunch of lies about an election being stolen AND stole money from his supporters via a stop the steal fund that he said would be used for court fees and instead simply pocketed AND then Biden held a rally in DC telling his mob of angry supporters to march to white house and fight AND then sat around for hours watching his supporters go the whitehouse and fight and cause destruction and chaos then I would want him to be impeached and removed from office.

Or if we had evidence that Biden took a bunch of documents home from the whitehouse that he was not allowed to take and then after being asked to return them didn't return them I would want him impeached and removed from office.

Especially if he had a history prior to becoming president of losing in court for things like using a charity fraudulently or creating a fake university. Sprinkle in some smoke of russia wanting biden to win an election and there being evidence of them helping him win an election. Then add in another court loss for the Biden organization losing in court for tax related issues.

I mean if Biden had all that going against him (and was also a complete narcissistic douchebag as well) then I would never ever ever vote for him and would never want him anywhere near our government and would prefer him to be in jail.

Of course if i was part of his cult then all that would only make me like him more and make me more likely to vote for him. I would use terms like hoax and witch hunt and say the justice system is simply out to get him and he is a poor little victim.


Instead I hear about someone having something about someone doing something and I want it to be investigated. Because im not in a cult and like people to be held accountable.

We have all that you hypocrite... You're literally commenting on a post that was from 2011 where Biden was VP. The FBI has been investigating this for 6+ years and Democrats literally impeached Trump for looking into this corruption. I've explained this to you many times fish. Amazing that Biden was literally guilty of plagiarism, and you have the audacity to talk about pre-presidential crimes. Funny that you also bring up Russia yet you don't even realize that Obamas own staff admitted that Obama told them to "stand down" when he was told of collusion. His own staff also admits he did so because Obama needed Putins blessing for the Iran deal. Again... I have explained this to you many times. You just do not care and are a hypocrite.

Oh and can you provide those phone calls please because that has been retracted after the actual phone transcripts were released. I bet you won't. Hell I guarantee you that you wont back a single claim up. Lets see some links. Another funny thing is that Ukraine phone call was literally a whistleblower who didn't even hear the phone call. They heard it from another whistleblower who didn't even hear the phone call.


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Hunter Biden’s biz partner called Joe Biden ‘the Big Guy’ in panicked message after Post’s laptop story

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CONFIRMED: FBI Colluded With Big Tech To Prevent Voters From Learning About Hunter Biden’s Laptop​

Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg admitted that Facebook algorithmically suppressed stories about Hunter Biden’s laptop during the 2020 election at the request of the FBI weeks before the November contest.

Speaking on Joe Rogan’s podcast on Thursday, Zuckerberg said the FBI approached employees at the tech giant to warn that the laptop was a vehicle of Russian interference.


“The FBI basically came to us and spoke to some folks on our team and was like, ‘Hey, just so you know, you should be on high alert. We thought that there was a lot of Russian propaganda on the 2016 election. We have it on notice that basically there’s about to be some kind of dump similar to that,'” Zuckerberg said. The CEO did not say precisely when the discussion took place.

Hunter Biden business partner says 'big guy' email about China deal is 'genuine' and refers to Joe Biden​

Tony Bobulinski, listed as one of the recipients of an email detailing an apparent business deal between a Chinese company and Hunter Biden, said that the message is "genuine" and that “the big guy” mentioned is a reference to Hunter’s father, former Vice President and 2020 Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, whom he claims Hunter Biden asked for business advice.

"The facts set forth below are true and accurate," Bobulinski said. "They are not any form of domestic or foreign disinformation. Any suggestion to the contrary is false and offensive. I am the recipient of the email published seven days ago by the New York Post which showed a copy to Hunter Biden and Rob Walker. That email is genuine."

The email he was referring to is from James Gilliar, a member of the J2CR international consulting firm, to Hunter Biden and others, dated May 13, 2017, and it discusses “expectations” of an as-of-yet-unclear deal while claiming that, “we have discussed and agreed the following renumeration packages.” The email notes that “Hunter” would receive “850” (in context, this appears to mean $850,000) and lists him as “Chair / Vice Chair depending on agreement with CEFC” — the China Energy Fund Committee.

CEFC China Energy is a multibillion-dollar Chinese conglomerate founded by Ye Jianming, a Chinese Communist Party-linked business tycoon who has since disappeared in China but with whom Hunter Biden had attempted to work out numerous deals. The email goes on to say that “Hunter has some office expectations he will elaborate” and that “at the moment there’s a provisional agreement that the equity will be distributed as follows,” including “20” (likely 20%) for “H” (Hunter). The email also asks about “10 held by H for the big guy" as well as "10" for "Jim." The email also listed "20" for "RW" or Rob Walker. Gilliar added that he was “happy to raise any detail with Zang if there is [sic] shortfalls” — a likely reference to Zang Jianjun, the former executive chairman of CEFC.


His statement, obtained by the Washington Examiner, came hours ahead of the final debate between the elder Biden and President Trump, and less than two weeks before Election Day.

 

[fishonjazz]

We have all that you hypocrite... You're literally commenting on a post that was from 2011.



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Hunter Biden’s biz partner called Joe Biden ‘the Big Guy’ in panicked message after Post’s laptop story

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CONFIRMED: FBI Colluded With Big Tech To Prevent Voters From Learning About Hunter Biden’s Laptop​

Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg admitted that Facebook algorithmically suppressed stories about Hunter Biden’s laptop during the 2020 election at the request of the FBI weeks before the November contest.

Speaking on Joe Rogan’s podcast on Thursday, Zuckerberg said the FBI approached employees at the tech giant to warn that the laptop was a vehicle of Russian interference.


“The FBI basically came to us and spoke to some folks on our team and was like, ‘Hey, just so you know, you should be on high alert. We thought that there was a lot of Russian propaganda on the 2016 election. We have it on notice that basically there’s about to be some kind of dump similar to that,'” Zuckerberg said. The CEO did not say precisely when the discussion took place.

Hunter Biden business partner says 'big guy' email about China deal is 'genuine' and refers to Joe Biden​

Tony Bobulinski, listed as one of the recipients of an email detailing an apparent business deal between a Chinese company and Hunter Biden, said that the message is "genuine" and that “the big guy” mentioned is a reference to Hunter’s father, former Vice President and 2020 Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, whom he claims Hunter Biden asked for business advice.

"The facts set forth below are true and accurate," Bobulinski said. "They are not any form of domestic or foreign disinformation. Any suggestion to the contrary is false and offensive. I am the recipient of the email published seven days ago by the New York Post which showed a copy to Hunter Biden and Rob Walker. That email is genuine."

The email he was referring to is from James Gilliar, a member of the J2CR international consulting firm, to Hunter Biden and others, dated May 13, 2017, and it discusses “expectations” of an as-of-yet-unclear deal while claiming that, “we have discussed and agreed the following renumeration packages.” The email notes that “Hunter” would receive “850” (in context, this appears to mean $850,000) and lists him as “Chair / Vice Chair depending on agreement with CEFC” — the China Energy Fund Committee.

CEFC China Energy is a multibillion-dollar Chinese conglomerate founded by Ye Jianming, a Chinese Communist Party-linked business tycoon who has since disappeared in China but with whom Hunter Biden had attempted to work out numerous deals. The email goes on to say that “Hunter has some office expectations he will elaborate” and that “at the moment there’s a provisional agreement that the equity will be distributed as follows,” including “20” (likely 20%) for “H” (Hunter). The email also asks about “10 held by H for the big guy" as well as "10" for "Jim." The email also listed "20" for "RW" or Rob Walker. Gilliar added that he was “happy to raise any detail with Zang if there is [sic] shortfalls” — a likely reference to Zang Jianjun, the former executive chairman of CEFC.


His statement, obtained by the Washington Examiner, came hours ahead of the final debate between the elder Biden and President Trump, and less than two weeks before Election Day.

Wait, Im a hypocrite because I want Biden to be investigated and then prosecuted and impeached and removed from office if found guilty of wrongdoing? How does that make me a hypocrite? Is it because I want Biden treated the same way I want trump treated? Weird definition of hypocrite but whatever.

 

[SteakNEggs]

Wait, Im a hypocrite because I want Biden to be investigated and then prosecuted and impeached and removed from office if found guilty of wrongdoing? How does that make me a hypocrite? Is it because I want Biden treated the same way I want trump treated? Weird definition of hypocrite but whatever.

Yes.. Where have you been the last 3 years? YOu've been more than happy to look right past it just as long as it suited your own needs. You even brought up how another president was aon a phone call telling Ukraine he was going to withhold funds but yet where were you when Biden literally did it on video against the prosecutor looking into Hunter Bidens business deals? You were nowhere to be found, but you sure were quick to jump on others... that is the definition of hypocrite. I brought this story up many times and you didn't care. I have done nothing but expose Hunter and Bidens corruption and you have stayed silent. But you sure were quick to jump on Desantis wearing a pair of boots.... I bet you voted for Biden all while being for Trump getting impeached for less as far as Ukraine phone calls.

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[fishonjazz]

Yes.. Where have you been the last 3 years? YOu've been more than happy to look right past it just as long as it suited your own needs. You even brought up how another president was aon a phone call telling Ukraine he was going to withhold funds but yet where were you when Biden literally did it on video against the prosecutor looking into Hunter Bidens business deals? You were nowhere to be found, but you sure were quick to jump on others... that is the definition of hypocrite. I brought this story up many times and you didn't care. I have done nothing but expose Humter and Bidens corruption and you have stayed silent. But you sure were quick to jump on Desantis wearing a pair off boots.... I bet you voted for Biden all while being for Trump getting impeached for less.

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See I only jumped on trump for his phone call to ukraine once there was a trial going on. Let me know when Biden is on trial. I dont even know what you are referring to about desantis and boots lol. Literally haven't heard anything about boots and desantis and have no idea what you are talking about. See when you expose people i dont care. I wont jump on people for you. Hell, i dont read most of your posts. And I never click on any videos or links you provide. Your credibility is poor. Info into bidens crimes will have to be provided to me by a source that isn't you for me to jump on him for it. Sorry not sorry.

Anywho, what I want to happen in the next presidential election is for someone not named biden or trump to win. So for me it would be awesome if Biden goes down. That way the democratic party would put forth a different candidate that I could vote for instead of Biden. Biden was literally at the bottom of my list of democratic candidates in the primaries last election. I would be pretty happy to not have to vote for Biden again. Please take him down. Take your evidence in to the courts please and get Biden off the ballot for 2024. Please. We know that trump will be the republican candidate since his followers will vote for him no matter what he does, just like trump said when he said he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and not lose any supporters, so if biden doesn't get taken down then sadly he will be our president again in 2024 and beyond. I really really hope that isn't the case.

Oy, banging my head against a wall (the equivalent of discussing anything with you) is giving me a headache and is a huge waste of time (other than at least it keeps you busy harmelessly ranting and raving on jazzfanz rather than causing actual harm to society) so back to ignoring you now.

 

[fishonjazz]

Just googled ron desantis boots to see what the hell jazzy was talking about. Those boots are pretty funny looking. doesn't make me feel any kind of way about him however. I dont really care what boots he wears. (though if he were president then it would bother me a bit as its kind of embarrassing. I could look past it but if he kept doing embarrassing stuff then I would turn on him)

 

[fishonjazz]

Also, I have long said that i think that any and all presidential candidates are corrupt and have done something dirty. I dont think you to that level of politics without being corrupt. So ya, I will look the other way on some corruption if the candidate/president isn't a complete embarrassing douchebag. Which was always my biggest issue with trump. It wasn't/isn't his crimes as much as his personality. He lacks empathy and class. He is a narcissist and a douchebag. He is embarrassing. The world was laughing at him/us. I dont hate biden because of any rumored corruption (and again, the difference between trump and biden corruption is that trump has a long history of losing in actual court and trials where biden has some rumours about him) I hate biden because he is embarrassing. He sniffs kids. He has a hard time speaking. He is old AF. He falls off bikes. The world is probably laughing at him/us.
I would be willing to bet that obama was corrupt and committed some crimes. He was pretty hard to make fun of though. Not much material there. I hate that biden and trump are so damn easy to poke fun at.

Please bring him down so I can vote for someone else. Ideally both trump and biden are taken down and are not nominated to run for president and I will just go back to not voting. Hell just get trump out of the running and I will go back to not voting.

 

[SteakNEggs]

Oy, banging my head against a wall (the equivalent of discussing anything with you) is giving me a headache and is a huge waste of time (other than at least it keeps you busy harmelessly ranting and raving on jazzfanz rather than causing actual harm to society)

Oh I forgot how you guys are also looking past the new revelation that Biden and his administration have openly and gladly looked past over 28,000 migrant children not being accounted for under his watch. Many of whom who have been sold into sex trafficking and child labor as the NYT has pointed out. Trump and his wife made fighting this a priority. Yet I'm the harm to society not the ones willingly staying silent about this...............

As Migrant Children Were Put to Work, U.S. Ignored Warnings (Published 2023)

The White House and federal agencies were repeatedly alerted to signs of children at risk. The warnings were ignored or missed.

www.nytimes.com

See you soon.

 

[SteakNEggs]

It wasn't/isn't his crimes as much as his personality. He lacks empathy and class.

Yet you have no problem calling other cultist hundreds of time(search your history) for simply thinking differently. Not to mention literally calling me a threat to society if I wasn't here... Another case of you being a hypocrite.

 

[fishonjazz]

I call people who display a lack of empathy and class, people who lack empathy and class. I call people who display characteristics of people in a cult, cultists or culty or belonging to a cult. This makes complete since. Weird definition of hypocrite once again. Im starting to think that someone doesn't know the definition of hypocrite. Which is not at all surprising.

 

[SteakNEggs]

I call people who display a lack of empathy and class, people who lack empathy and class. I call people who display characteristics of people in a cult, cultists or culty or belonging to a cult. This makes complete since. Weird definition of hypocrite once again. Im starting to think that someone doesn't know the definition of hypocrite. Which is not at all surprising.

So why exactly am I doing that's a harm to society like you claim? Who am I hurting? You made a baseless claim just to be a classless jerk. Plain and simple. That is you being a hypocrite. Just because you are not Trump doesn't mean you have the right to act like him calling people you don't even know a harm to society. But by all means... Tell me. Outside of this board who am I harming? I am actually a very well liked and respected person in my community. Around here? Yeah, I've dished it but no more than you guys calling others cultist, racist, Nazis, and a harm to society. The only difference is that I find it funny and don't run to Jason like you guys. You call me a harm to society is laughable and a just a bully tactic.

 

[fishonjazz]

Did I say jazzy is harming society? i missed that. I guess he thinks that when i say that he doesn't seem to know the definition of hypocrite that i am actually saying that he is harming society. He seems very confused. I actually think all his trolling is good for society. Keeps him posting harmlessly on the internet. Troll on jazzy, for the good of society.

 

[SteakNEggs]

Oy, banging my head against a wall (the equivalent of discussing anything with you) is giving me a headache and is a huge waste of time (other than at least it keeps you busy harmelessly ranting and raving on jazzfanz rather than causing actual harm to society) so back to ignoring you now.

 

[fishonjazz]

I see jazzy bolded where i said he is harmlessly ranting and raving on jazzfanz and not causing actual harm to society. To him that means that i said he is causing harm to society. I literally said the exact opposite lol.

 

[SteakNEggs]

I see jazzy bolded where i said he is harmlessly ranting and raving on jazzfanz and not causing actual harm to society. To him that means that i said he is causing harm to society. I literally said the exact opposite lol.

Lmfao nice backtrack. Typical of you. You said "other than at least it keeps you busy harmelessly ranting and raving on jazzfanz rather than causing actual harm to society" meaning that if I wasn't here I would be harming people. You know exactly what you were saying. C'mon bro, you are better than this. You completely changed what you said above. You were literally insinuating that I would be and actual harm to society if I wasn't here. Don't be a coward here. Own it.

Whatever though. You said what you said. You won't actually own it so it's time to get back on to topic not feeding your Trumplike bullying. My bad, back to actual politics.

 

[fishonjazz]

look jazzy, im glad you said that you are well respected and liked in your real life. Makes me less worried about you. In your message board life your are mostly ignored, not liked or respected, and considered a troll. Good to know that on jazzfanz you are just acting. Because on jazzfanz you display some red flags for someone who is capable and willing to do something destructive. your online persona comes accross as insecure, unhinged, emotional, angry, and isolated. Once upon a time (early 20's) I worked for a company called Human Affairs international. Part of my job duties (along with filing medical claims and stuff) was to occasionally take calls from a help hotline. People on the other end of the line were often isolated (ignored), emotional, angry, insecure and unhinged and it was my job to calm them down and get them to a more specialized professional to continue to assist them.
Its comforting to know that your real life (liked, respected) seems to be much different from your online persona. Its strange to me to go online and put on an act for the other people on the forum but harmless. Speaking for myself im generally the same online as i am in real life. Im generally well liked in my real life (I wouldn't go so far as to say im respected by the community as 95% of the community has no idea who I am) and generally well liked on jazzfanz. Im just a guy. Nothing very special or unique about me.

Now that I know that your online persona is mostly an act, go ahead and troll on and i wont interfere any longer. Im glad you are harmless but seriously if you ever start feeling destructive seek help or call a hotline or something. Those resources really can make a difference. (I speak from experience on both sides. I have taken calls from those who needed help and I have sought help via therapy and even anger management classes back in my late teens. both helped me out greatly.)

 

[SteakNEggs]

It baffles me that Republicans have offered to raise the debt ceiling but under circumstances where we stop such wreckless spending. Our government is an irresponsible machine speding money we do not have. What gets me is that the Biden administration is saying we will be out of money by June yet Biden just sent almost another HALF BILLION to fight a war that we should not even be in. Where is this money coming from? Now he wants to pay for money for kids dropping out of college? He is leaving the boarders open that is literally crippling cities that cannot take the financial weight. Biden has spent more in his first two years than Trump(who deserves blame for spending recklessly too though he was in a pandemic) in his pandemic years. That is absolutely insane.

Imagine the average citizen that is in debt. That person cannot even afford their next bills yet they go out and buy a new expensive unit of some sort like Biden giving a half billion to Ukraine (while depleting our own inventory which is even more money). Or offering to buy drop outs schooling. Republicans are saying "hey we can help but you gotta stop spending", Biden is saying "nope we have to keep spending and if you don't agree you are the bad person".

Who's being responsible here? And who is literally causing our economy to be over flooded with spending?

 

[SteakNEggs]

look jazzy, im glad you said that you are well respected and liked in your real life. Makes me less worried about you. In your message board life your are mostly ignored, not liked or respected, and considered a troll. Good to know that on jazzfanz you are just acting. Because on jazzfanz you display some red flags for someone who is capable and willing to do something destructive. your online persona comes accross as insecure, unhinged, emotional, angry, and isolated. Once upon a time (early 20's) I worked for a company called Human Affairs international. Part of my job duties (along with filing medical claims and stuff) was to occasionally take calls from a help hotline. People on the other end of the line were often isolated (ignored), emotional, angry, insecure and unhinged and it was my job to calm them down and get them to a more specialized professional to continue to assist them.
Its comforting to know that your real life (liked, respected) seems to be much different from your online persona. Its strange to me to go online and put on an act for the other people on the forum but harmless. Speaking for myself im generally the same online as i am in real life. Im generally well liked in my real life (I wouldn't go so far as to say im respected by the community as 95% of the community has no idea who I am) and generally well liked on jazzfanz. Im just a guy. Nothing very special or unique about me.

Now that I know that your online persona is mostly an act, go ahead and troll on and i wont interfere any longer. Im glad you are harmless but seriously if you ever start feeling destructive seek help or call a hotline or something. Those resources really can make a difference. (I speak from experience on both sides. I have taken calls from those who needed help and I have sought help via therapy and even anger management classes back in my late teens. both helped me out greatly.)

Lol see, you meant what you said. Now answer my question... What exactly are those red flags? Being against child mutilation? Being a Republican? Being against rioting? The only thing I feel like I am guilty of is giving people like you who call me a cultist a taste of your own medicine and you cannot handle it yourself and have to run to Jason. I have been called racist, never said a racist thing. Transphobe for thinking child mutilation is unacceptable. Tribal and bullied tremendously for questioning a vaccine. Bullied for months for pointing out and providinf a **** load of evidence that the virus came from a lab. Hell this board is still bullying people about the vaccine all while asking about unity. I've been called a Nazi and far worse for supporting Trump. You guys dish it then get angry when I dish it back. But man up... tell me specifically what my red flags are please. I have done nothing worse than you guys have here. Nothing.... Yea I have mocked some of you by calling you guys cultist, I'll admit that. A word you have used over 100 times. I was just joking/trolling you back letting you know how childish it was. I owned that and I have stopped. You haven't...

You all deny it but this board was very very hateful towards people who questioned the vaccine or went against the "it was a pangolin" absolute ridiculous conspiracy. Hell thriller and Gameface just the other day were spewing hardcore vitriol towards others. I from the bottom of my heart just feel I am pushing back with the same rhetoric many, including you have pushed . Now is that childish? Maybe. Bullying the bullies. As I've pointed out... There is a reason there are very few conservatives here... Because they are forced out and attacked. Especially Trump supporters...

 

[One Brow]

It baffles me that Republicans have offered to raise the debt ceiling but under circumstances where we stop such wreckless spending.

It should be even more baffling to you that Republicans had no such requirements when they raised the debt ceiling in 2017, 2018, and 2019, if you were serious about this.

 

[SteakNEggs]

It should be even more baffling to you that Republicans had no such requirements when they raised the debt ceiling in 2017, 2018, and 2019, if you were serious about this.

This is called a whataboutism. Stay on current topics for once. I even said and I quote..."Trump(who deserves blame for spending recklessly too though he was in a pandemic).

My point still stands. We cannot keep spending like this. We are out of money in a month but still just spent another $400,000,000 on Ukraine. As to my point to fish about me getting constantly bombarded with negativity and meanness... Remember when I pointed out the economic hardships this war is going to have upon us and was mocked , told I'm uneducated, called a troll and told that I'm just Dunning Krugering, for pointing out how we don't have the money or economic stability for this war between two **** corrupt countries? Just wanted to point that out.