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Bucknutz said:
Unity, issues, genuine, knowledgeable, articulate which are lacking in the other major candidates, yet RFK has these qualities.


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But But But anti-vax and he is independent. Oh and his voice.

We have a better option.
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Get rid of the electoral college and 3rd party candidates may have a chance some day.

As it stands 18 million Americans voted 3rd party in an election one time. That resulted in a grand total of ZERO electoral votes. Those 18 million votes didn't count.

Actually I was a little low on the number.
On Election Day, Perot finished in third place behind Clinton (the winner) and Bush. Perot received 19,743,821 votes, the most ever received by a non-major-party candidate, which accounted for 18.91% of the popular vote. He garnered ZERO electoral votes

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fishonjazz said:
Get rid of the electoral college and 3rd party candidates may have a chance some day.

As it stands 18 million Americans voted 3rd party in an election one time. That resulted in a grand total of ZERO electoral votes. Those 18 million votes didn't count.

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Oh they swayed the electoral college, by taking votes away from candidate #2, essentially handing the election to the candidate that won, with like 40% of the total vote. It was ridiculous. Perot took nearly 20% of the vote and that would very likely have propelled Bush to the presidency. So they mattered. But not the way they should have mattered. And he actually got nearly 20 million votes.
 
I still think we could shake things up if we make the winner be the president and the loser be the vice president. Unless the loser is the incumbent. But I would also like to change the presidency to a single 6-year term and no chance for re-election. They serve once, for 6 years, and they are just done.
 
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Oh they swayed the electoral college, by taking votes away from candidate #2, essentially handing the election to the candidate that won, with like 40% of the total vote. It was ridiculous. Perot took nearly 20% of the vote and that would very likely have propelled Bush to the presidency. So they mattered. But not the way they should have mattered. And he actually got nearly 20 million votes.
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This made me curious about Theodore Roosevelt and the Bull Moose party so I looked at old Teddy's wiki and holy ****! Man had a life, saw some things, did some stuff, ****ed around, found out, and ****ed around some more.

His Bull Moose party accomplished exactly the same thing as Perot did, they got the "other side" elected.
 
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Some Republicans Embrace Conspiracy Theories on Trump Assassination

WASHINGTON — Rep. Eli Crane, R-Ariz. and a former Navy SEAL, says he is no conspiracy theorist. But in the weeks since the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, he has made the baseless suggestion that the shooting was part of a coordinated campaign by Democrats or shadowy government actors...
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Rep. Eli Crane, R-Ariz. and a former Navy SEAL, says he is no conspiracy theorist. But in the weeks since the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, he has made the baseless suggestion that the shooting was part of a coordinated campaign by Democrats or shadowy government actors to try to stop the former president from reclaiming the White House.

No evidence has emerged that anyone other than a lone gunman, Thomas Crooks, tried to kill Trump. Crooks, 20, was a registered Republican who was killed at the scene and left few clues about his beliefs or what motivated him to open fire at a Trump rally July 13.

But in the telling of Crane and several of his right-wing Republican colleagues in Congress, as well as GOP candidates seeking election this fall, there is far more to the story. They are trafficking in dangerous conspiracy theories that insinuate that Democrats and government forces played a role in trying to take out Trump.

It is the latest example of how elected Republicans have promoted groundless claims that suit their political narrative, drawing unsubstantiated theories and grievance-driven suspicions once relegated to the right-wing fringe into the mainstream of their party — and suffering no criticism from leaders for spreading them. The effort is similar to the GOP’s bid to deny, sanitize or excuse the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol by a mob of Trump supporters.

“Time and time again, we’ve observed a disturbing feedback loop between lawmakers and online conspiracies,” said Nina Jankowicz, a disinformation expert. “Our elected officials should be holding themselves to a higher standard, sharing verified information, not dealing in speculation that could inflame and endanger more Americans.”

Two days after the shooting, Tim Sheehy, the GOP front-runner in the race to challenge Sen. Jon Tester, D-Mont., told supporters at a meet-and-greet with constituents that Trump’s political rivals were to blame.

“They’ve been trying to put him in jail and done everything they can to stop somebody who represents our best interests,” Sheehy said. “And it culminated in them trying to kill him.”

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fishonjazz said:
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Some Republicans Embrace Conspiracy Theories on Trump Assassination

WASHINGTON — Rep. Eli Crane, R-Ariz. and a former Navy SEAL, says he is no conspiracy theorist. But in the weeks since the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, he has made the baseless suggestion that the shooting was part of a coordinated campaign by Democrats or shadowy government actors...
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Rep. Eli Crane, R-Ariz. and a former Navy SEAL, says he is no conspiracy theorist. But in the weeks since the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, he has made the baseless suggestion that the shooting was part of a coordinated campaign by Democrats or shadowy government actors to try to stop the former president from reclaiming the White House.

No evidence has emerged that anyone other than a lone gunman, Thomas Crooks, tried to kill Trump. Crooks, 20, was a registered Republican who was killed at the scene and left few clues about his beliefs or what motivated him to open fire at a Trump rally July 13.

But in the telling of Crane and several of his right-wing Republican colleagues in Congress, as well as GOP candidates seeking election this fall, there is far more to the story. They are trafficking in dangerous conspiracy theories that insinuate that Democrats and government forces played a role in trying to take out Trump.

It is the latest example of how elected Republicans have promoted groundless claims that suit their political narrative, drawing unsubstantiated theories and grievance-driven suspicions once relegated to the right-wing fringe into the mainstream of their party — and suffering no criticism from leaders for spreading them. The effort is similar to the GOP’s bid to deny, sanitize or excuse the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol by a mob of Trump supporters.

“Time and time again, we’ve observed a disturbing feedback loop between lawmakers and online conspiracies,” said Nina Jankowicz, a disinformation expert. “Our elected officials should be holding themselves to a higher standard, sharing verified information, not dealing in speculation that could inflame and endanger more Americans.”

Two days after the shooting, Tim Sheehy, the GOP front-runner in the race to challenge Sen. Jon Tester, D-Mont., told supporters at a meet-and-greet with constituents that Trump’s political rivals were to blame.

“They’ve been trying to put him in jail and done everything they can to stop somebody who represents our best interests,” Sheehy said. “And it culminated in them trying to kill him.”

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Was always going to happen
 
Its crazy how much better the 4 years of Biden were for the US than the previous with Trump. Both only served 1 term but 1 will go down as one of the better modern presidents who got a lot done even with the mess that was left to him. The other is Trump who will go down as one of the least successfull and worst presidents of all time.

Great news is that its well known that Harris was helping Biden with every major decision and by his side. So we know we are getting the best part of a great 4 years.
 
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fishonjazz said:
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Critics Stunned By Donald Trump’s ‘Heartless’ Punch Line About Man Killed At His Rally

The Republican nominee was slammed as horrible, unkind and a “self-centered sadistic monster” over the line.
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Trump thinks it's amazing that a wife would rather have her husband back instead of a million dollars.
Probably because he knows Melania would choose the money

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Eh, Melania stands to inherit way more than that, so she would happily have a dead Donald. She was probably the most disappointed person in America that the shooter missed.
 
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fishonjazz said:
www.yahoo.com

Some Republicans Embrace Conspiracy Theories on Trump Assassination

WASHINGTON — Rep. Eli Crane, R-Ariz. and a former Navy SEAL, says he is no conspiracy theorist. But in the weeks since the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, he has made the baseless suggestion that the shooting was part of a coordinated campaign by Democrats or shadowy government actors...
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com

Rep. Eli Crane, R-Ariz. and a former Navy SEAL, says he is no conspiracy theorist. But in the weeks since the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, he has made the baseless suggestion that the shooting was part of a coordinated campaign by Democrats or shadowy government actors to try to stop the former president from reclaiming the White House.

No evidence has emerged that anyone other than a lone gunman, Thomas Crooks, tried to kill Trump. Crooks, 20, was a registered Republican who was killed at the scene and left few clues about his beliefs or what motivated him to open fire at a Trump rally July 13.

But in the telling of Crane and several of his right-wing Republican colleagues in Congress, as well as GOP candidates seeking election this fall, there is far more to the story. They are trafficking in dangerous conspiracy theories that insinuate that Democrats and government forces played a role in trying to take out Trump.

It is the latest example of how elected Republicans have promoted groundless claims that suit their political narrative, drawing unsubstantiated theories and grievance-driven suspicions once relegated to the right-wing fringe into the mainstream of their party — and suffering no criticism from leaders for spreading them. The effort is similar to the GOP’s bid to deny, sanitize or excuse the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol by a mob of Trump supporters.

“Time and time again, we’ve observed a disturbing feedback loop between lawmakers and online conspiracies,” said Nina Jankowicz, a disinformation expert. “Our elected officials should be holding themselves to a higher standard, sharing verified information, not dealing in speculation that could inflame and endanger more Americans.”

Two days after the shooting, Tim Sheehy, the GOP front-runner in the race to challenge Sen. Jon Tester, D-Mont., told supporters at a meet-and-greet with constituents that Trump’s political rivals were to blame.

“They’ve been trying to put him in jail and done everything they can to stop somebody who represents our best interests,” Sheehy said. “And it culminated in them trying to kill him.”

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They all watched Donald lie about literally everything and use it to propel himself to the presidency. They learned. They are now playing around with flat out lying to get themselves ahead, the way their Orange Jesus did it before them. Be thee therefore corrupt, as your father, the Donald, is corrupt, and ye shall be rewarded.
 
Most of you will love seeing this as you openly advocate for biological men to hit women. Sadly none of you graduated basic biology and know the difference between men and women even though it's common sense and even 3 years olds understand. This is a major victory for you fascist women hating science deniers. Heart warming for y'all. Especially the bolded where a poor woman has to quit all her dreams because a biological man invaded her space and violated her most basic human rights.

Female Olympic boxer forfeits bout after 46 seconds to opponent mired in gender controversy: 'One punch hurt too much'


A female Olympic boxer threw in the towel after just 46 seconds into her fight Thursday after determining her opponent — who's been mired in a gender controversy — was hitting her too hard.

Italy's Angela Carini took a punch from Algeria's Imane Khelif in the women's 66-kilogram division — and then Carini signaled to her corner that she was done.

After Carini, 25, abandoned the fight, and Khelif's hand was being raised in victory, Carini was seen breaking down in tears and falling to her knees before eventually leaving the ring.
Carini and her coach spoke to Italian press agency ANSA after the match to explain what happened.

"I got into the ring to fight," Carini said. "I didn't give up, but one punch hurt too much, and so I said enough."

"I'm going out with my head held high," she added.


Her coach Emanuele Renzini said Carini hadn't planned ahead of time to forfeit the match.

"It would have been easier not to show up, because all of Italy had been asking her not to fight for days," Renzini said. "But Angela was motivated and wanted to do it."

He added, "Of course, when she met her opponent at the draw, she said 'it's not fair.' But there was no premeditation here today. She quit after taking one punch; she told me she didn't feel she could fight."

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Female Olympic boxer forfeits bout after 46 seconds to opponent mired in gender controversy: 'One punch hurt too much' | Blaze Media

Italy's Angela Carini was facing Algeria's Imane Khelif in the women's 66-kilogram division when after just 35 seconds she took a moment to adjust her equipment. Then, after just one punch, Carini signaled to her corner that she had had enough.
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Well….Trump ambiguous statements do lend themselves to multiple meanings. I blame Trump 100% for that, and I do believe it is often calculated and deliberate.

Various perspectives offered in this piece. I think it is well worth mentioning, that it is very true that Trump is well known by now for ambiguous statements that can be interpreted in more than one way:

“Erica De Bruin, a professor of government at Hamilton College whose research focuses on civil-military relations, civil war and policing, said, “Trump frequently makes these kinds of deliberately ambiguous statements that can be interpreted in multiple ways.”

But she added that “to understand what another Trump presidency would involve, I think it is more useful to look at his past behavior than to attempt to parse what might be the ‘true meaning’ of any individual set of remarks he makes.” She pointed out that the last time he was in office, “he attempted to subvert the outcome of an election and remain in power longer than the American public voted to keep him there.”

Also:
“Steven Levitsky, a professor of government at Harvard University, and co-author of “Tyranny of the Minority: Why American Democracy Reached the Breaking Point,” also said that while he didn’t think Trump’s recent comment was “indicative of an organized plot to end elections in the United States,” it did represent yet another sign that “the guy has got authoritarian reflexes.”

“Over the course of 10 or 15 years,” Levitsky added, a growing number of Republicans “convinced themselves that they weren’t going to be able to win elections in this new, multiracial America. I’m not so sure that’s true, but they were deeply fearful that was true. And so Trump, I think more than anything else, he senses … where they’re going and they’re feeling”.

And, absolutely this:

“Levitsky’s co-author, Daniel Ziblatt, also a professor of government at Harvard, put a finer point on the significance of Trump’s comment. “I can’t think of a major candidate for office in any democracy on Earth since at least World War II who speaks in such overtly authoritarian ways,” said Ziblatt. “Not Victor Orban in Hungary, not Recep Erdogan in Turkey. Nowhere.”

And:

Jennifer Mercieca, a communications professor at Texas A&M University and author of “Demagogue for President: The Rhetorical Genius of Donald Trump,” said in an email that she interpreted Trump’s comment as an attempt to address the “double bind” that supposed “strongmen” leaders face……

……“I think Trump is here promising Christians that he will actually solve the problems that he has promised them he’ll solve (a full abortion ban … and various ‘culture war’ issues) and so with all of the problems solved, they won’t feel like the world is so chaotic that they have to vote to save the nation.”


“It’s a big promise,” she added, “and he doesn’t give specific details here.”


As noted, I did not immediately think “he won’t leave office”, but, hey, he already tried it once!! I don’t even understand how the hell he’s even allowed to run again after trying to overthrow the government. Naw, he means it. Just put him in that Oval Office, and he’ll leave the day he dies, not one day sooner….Not ONE day sooner….
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See, I thought he meant "I won't be running again, so there's no reason to vote."
 
Ron Mexico said:
He is a terrible option. The antivax garbage is just the part of his crazy conspiracy takes. The antivax stuff was terrible though and directly lead to deaths.
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Ron Mexico said:
He also has no experience. Which is the main reason you stated you would not vote Harris.
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This is incorrect. My reasons against Harris is that she was chosen for you. There are better options for the Democrats which has more experience, more depth of knowledge and has more charisma. But it seems like very few people here recognize my opinion correctly.

It’s fine that you feel that RFK is a terrible option, that’s your opinion. At least there is another option than Harris and Trump.
 
Bucknutz said:

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This is incorrect. My reasons against Harris is that she was chosen for you. There are better options for the Democrats which has more experience, more depth of knowledge and has more charisma. But it seems like very few people here recognize my opinion correctly.

It’s fine that you feel that RFK is a terrible option, that’s your opinion. At least there is another option than Harris and Trump.
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He can say whatever he wants but his actions have spoken much louder. Obviously he is trying to change his tone to attract more voters. He is directly responsible for spreading false information that lead to a measles breakout in Samoa that killed many people. This one of many incidents from him.

As far as your other statement that's fine you can change why you don't like Harris. But this is your direct quote "I don’t like her because she has no accomplishments, limited experience."

She hasn't been chosen yet but she is overwhelmingly the favorite and extremely well supported. She set a record for funds raised. She is the most supported and liked candidate by far.
 
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LogGrad98 said:
As if we needed more confirmation that he is a dyed in the wool racist and all-around bigot. He would be the leader of the proud boys or KKK if he could.
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Yeah, at one time he put out an ad calling for the execution of innocent blacks and Latinos. Done more for blacks since Lincoln. “I am the least racist person….” Uh huh.

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Donald Trump and the Central Park Five: the racially charged rise of a demagogue

In 1989 five black and Latino boys were wrongfully convicted of raping a woman jogging in New York City. Leading the charge against them was a real estate mogul whose divisive rhetoric can be found in his presidential campaign today
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Yusef Salaam was 15 years old when Donald Trump demanded his execution for a crime he did not commit.

Nearly three decades before the rambunctious billionaire began his run for president – before he called for a ban on Muslims entering the United States, for the expulsion of all undocumented migrants, before he branded Mexicans as “rapists” and was accused of mocking the disabled – Trump called for the reinstatement of the death penalty in New York following a horrific rape case in which five teenagers were wrongly convicted.

The miscarriage of justice is widely remembered as a definitive moment in New York’s fractured race relations. But Trump’s intervention – he signed full-page newspaper advertisements implicitly calling for the boys to die – has been gradually overlooked as his chances of winning the Republican nomination have rapidly increased. Now those involved in the case of the so-called Central Park Five and its aftermath say Trump’s rhetoric served as an unlikely precursor to a unique brand of divisive populism that has powered his rise to political prominence in 2016.

“He was the firestarter,” Salaam said of Trump, in his first extended interview since Trump announced his run for the White House. “Common citizens were being manipulated and swayed into believing that we were guilty.”
 
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