Al-O-Meter
Well-Known Member
You substituted my argument for the argument you wanted me to have been making. I never, not once, mentioned the southern state's economies.You’re correct, I was not directly quoting you, I summarized your argument more clearly to illustrate my point.
To rule as a nation. To be the big swinging dick. To be in a position to take kickbacks. To show up to international diplomatic gatherings with equal standing to the leaders of France, Germany, or the UK. The leaders of these states weren't all motivated by a vision of what they perceived as better for their greater society. They were the same rotten narcissistic egomaniac politicians out for themselves that we've always had.Sovereignty and independence to do what?
They already had slavery. Abraham Lincoln told them at every opportunity that he wasn't going to take slavery away from them. What they wanted, what they REALLY wanted, was power. All the rest of it is stories we've made up afterwards to paint the winners as the good guys. The best we can do is be glad the result was to see the end of chattel slavery in the United States and not scratch too deep beyond the pretty veneer plastered atop the events to find the real motivations for why things were really done.
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