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Douchebag K said:
Is anyone even remotely concerned that the US seems to not have a functioning President when all indications are significantly more widespread conflict is about to significantly kick off in the Middle East as well as the other conflicts around the world ??
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If the president were a king then yes. If the president were someone who thinks he knows more about everything than anyone and doesn't listen to council from anyone else then yes.

But since our government is run by thousands of people and Biden has no problem listening to others (probably just let's others handle a lot of stuff) I'm not that concerned about our countries part in this.

Also, the US is part of this group of countries called NATO. Each of those countries should be involved in trying to de escalate things. This shouldn't be something left to Biden to fix even if he were in his 40's and at the peak of his mental health.

What is Australia doing to prevent the conflict from escalating?

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Bucknutz said:
For the American citizens here, who plan to vote, are you planning to vote on Election Day, Early Voting or Mail-in?

Just looked up early voting here in Florida, it starts about 2 weeks before. This is what I have done in the past and plan to do again.
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I would prefer to do mail in voting.

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fishonjazz said:
If the president were a king then yes. If the president were someone who thinks he knows more about everything than anyone and doesn't listen to council from anyone else then yes.

But since our government is run by thousands of people and Biden has no problem listening to others (probably just let's others handle a lot of stuff) I'm not that concerned about our countries part in this.

Also, the US is part of this group of countries called NATO. Each of those countries should be involved in trying to de escalate things. This shouldn't be something left to Biden to fix even if he were in his 40's and at the peak of his mental health.

What is Australia doing to prevent the conflict from escalating?

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ADF currently has 8 active deployments in the region, mostly in observation, peacekeeping, training and logistics. I don't think the government can politically commit to a war in the region or has any desire to join the broadening conflict. Nor do I think we will be asked to deploy forces to the region by the US.
 
fishonjazz said:
If the president were a king then yes. If the president were someone who thinks he knows more about everything than anyone and doesn't listen to council from anyone else then yes.

But since our government is run by thousands of people and Biden has no problem listening to others (probably just let's others handle a lot of stuff) I'm not that concerned about our countries part in this.

Also, the US is part of this group of countries called NATO. Each of those countries should be involved in trying to de escalate things. This shouldn't be something left to Biden to fix even if he were in his 40's and at the peak of his mental health.

What is Australia doing to prevent the conflict from escalating?

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So the last year or two is a good demo that who is President doesn’t particularly matter
 
LogGrad98 said:
No. The secretary of state and defense and others will be involved. This is not a monarchy just yet, so one guy being down doesn't take down the entire system, even the president.
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So to my point by everyone’s admission there is not a functioning President atm Isn’t it at the least just embarrassing ??
 
Douchebag K said:
So the last year or two is a good demo that who is President doesn’t particularly matter
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Exactly. Of course it doesn't really matter. I am nearly 50 years old. Been through many presidents. Life has been relatively the same though all of them.


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Douchebag K said:
So to my point by everyone’s admission there is not a functioning President atm Isn’t it at the least just embarrassing ??
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Well ya Biden is too old and embarrassing. Are you thinking this hasn't been discussed before or something? Not sure if you heard but he is so old and embarrassing that he actually dropped out of the presidential race.

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fishonjazz said:
Well ya Biden is too old and embarrassing. Are you thinking this hasn't been discussed before or something? Not sure if you heard but he is so old and embarrassing that he actually dropped out of the presidential race.

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I'm primarily concerned because the middle east is literally about to explode at a new very very dangerous level. Traditionally the leader of the free world ie the US President would somehow be some kind of stabilising influence. Typically the US leader is some kind of impressive statesman like Obama, Clinton, Reagan. Now there's a corpse in the White House, soon to be replaced either by a criminal buffoon or a useful idiot.

The world is at a very unstable dangerous point in history. I just find it stunning more people aren't concerned.
 
Douchebag K said:
Traditionally the leader of the free world ie the US President would somehow be some kind of stabilising influence.
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This actually made me laugh out loud for real.

Actually, traditionally if anything the US has made things less stable in the middle east. The middle east has been in conflict literally like forever. And the US has caused or worsened much of it.

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LogGrad98 said:
I have not weighed in on the book burning issue, but I will weigh in here. Here in the united states, where we have a clear and unimpeachable right to freedom of speech (minus of course inciting speech like yelling fire in a crowded theater, etc.), yes this would be viewed as offensive by some of the population, but still allowed. Given the context of this being governed in the laws of the EU then the EU standard would apply. I am not sure if this is in keeping with the EU laws, it sure feels like it is, but if it is then if they want to continue having access to the EU on Twitter/X then they probably need to comply, as the laws of the United States do not govern other nations. Seems fairly clear to me.

Now, do I agree with it? Not sure actually. I think they should be able to post and send what they want to, within the law, but I think there is also a moral responsibility beyond the legal terms defined in "the law" that operators of sites like this should be expected to uphold. I think the same for Facebook, et al. that they should all be willing to reduce the inflammatory content and reduced the targeting of children and young people in their addiction-generating algorithms, for example. But they have shown only a propensity to chase the almighty dollar regardless of who it harms or how much general harm it does in society. I think that is "more wrong" than what is being sought here in this letter.

Do I feel this is akin to book burning? No, not really. I mean I think an argument could be made, but to me this is not the same thing.
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Utah’s state board of education literally was debating what to do with banned books and burning them was an option. Even today they don’t have answer since banned books in districts cannot be resold or donated. People splitting the hairs of books being burned vs kept out of circulation in perpetuity are playing a silly word game. Republicans are clearly playing a (losing) game to try and enforce their own unpopular view of public education onto a public that has rejected their draconian religious views.
 
fishonjazz said:
This actually made me laugh out loud for real.

Actually, traditionally if anything the US has made things less stable in the middle east. The middle east has been in conflict literally like forever. And the US has caused or worsened much of it.

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I don't think there's been too many times where Israel and Iran are so openly threatening and attacking each other. There's been reports of Hezbollah evacuating their bases in Lebanon as preparation to avoid retaliatory strikes from Israel. So yes obviously US foreign policy has always contributed to political instability but the looming threat of the US clearly backing Israel has often been perceived as preventing more acute all out conflict. So your'e missing the point. Or choosing to Enjoy your laugh
 
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