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So I'm not necessarily referring to tonight, but in general over the course of the streak, the biggest thing I've noticed about the defense has been how well we've managed quick switching and really crisp rotations. I could be wrong, but historically it feels like we've run this defense around Gobert where we can run people off the three point line and away from the rim and force low-percentage shots. Within the past year or so, there's been a huge explosion of volume stretch bigs that have really challenged this strategy as it pulls Rudy away from the basket, and has really exposed our bad perimeter D when there isn't backup meeting them at the rim. Then throw in our bad non-Rudy minutes last year.

When we got throttled by the Warriors after the Clippers series, the thing that stood out (aside from them throwing threes in the ocean) of what really killed us and didn't allow us any rhythm was how they would seamlessly switch things and their defensive rotations were really quick and on-point. That's essentially what I've seen over this stretch of games, generally speaking. We still have Gobert to do his things, but the rest of the team has really stepped it up not specifically on an individual level, but on a team level. We're basically always having bodies on people. I don't know if the stats bear that out at all, but that's what it feels like. This is covering for a lot of defensive issues we've had last year without necessarily changing personnel. And guys like Niang and Bojan are fitting just fine into this, not being sieves, and not getting targeted on D (that I can see, at least). It also seems like this is a big reason why Conley has been so much better on D, as it seemed like he was also getting shot over a ton last year.

Quin seems to have been much more willing to take a team approach to guarding perimeter guys, too. I think this is a nice leaf to turn over in comparison with a previously over-focused 'man-to-man' game where we rely on one guy to be some kind of stopper. This has, thus far, negated the need for a perimeter stopper. Maybe that becomes much more apparent throughout the season as we're scouted and get thrust into new situations, but I also don't recall any of the tall, athletic 3s/4s going nuclear on us, either, so that's been good, as well. Here's to hoping this continues.

We've yet to play LA, and I think the biggest challenges we may find is if we're able to play well in grind-it-out games that are close and if we keep confidence, or if the pressure mounts and we go through droughts like tonight in the 4th that seem more psychological than anything else. As far as the defense, I think the biggest thing is if we can just keep up the rotations and keep a body on people so that, even if they're getting shots and scoring, it's coming with them having to go up against a defender to get that.
 
I've been very impressed by Bogy's effort on D/Rebounding/Passing. He came to us as purely a shooter and he's been working hard at becoming adequate at the rest of his game, which is a huge plus comparatively. He's decently long so just effort and some footwork makes him serviceable and he can guard a lot of other teams 'stretch' players without getting played off the court defensively.
 
Rotations look good. Trying zone and other schemes... even when they fail like against Denver I’m happy with what they are doing. Pretty soon the only thing I will be able to complain about is that we drafted our 4th string center with our first round pick this year.
 
I know you can't take everything away but I'd like to see more helping the helper. When Rudy comes over to help on defense, someone needs to boxout or guard his man. Sure make the Pistons beat us with a wide open Mason Plumlee is a good strategy, but he got too many easy baskets when Rudy doubles on their best shooters.
 
I know you can't take everything away but I'd like to see more helping the helper. When Rudy comes over to help on defense, someone needs to boxout or guard his man. Sure make the Pistons beat us with a wide open Mason Plumlee is a good strategy, but he got too many easy baskets when Rudy doubles on their best shooters.
As much as he gets maligned, not a lot of teams have a Mason Plumlee that is going to consistently fight through contact and be that physical in order to get a rebound like that. He was a really good get for Detroit. He got 17 and 10 against the Lakers on 7 of 8 shooting.
 
Sometimes mixing zone, matchup zone and man to man has advantages as you are getting the other team to think "Hmm what defense are they using?". As certain plays will work against one and not the other. Sometime will run off the shot clock and the offensive team might start to panic a little.
 
I know you can't take everything away but I'd like to see more helping the helper. When Rudy comes over to help on defense, someone needs to boxout or guard his man. Sure make the Pistons beat us with a wide open Mason Plumlee is a good strategy, but he got too many easy baskets when Rudy doubles on their best shooters.
Yeah we need to change something when Plumlee outplays Gobert, at least in the main stats. That is a problem.
 
I was going to correct you but Favs used to be a starter and was the backup center... then Udoh... then TB. Why couldn't we have just drafted Bane? Sad face.
 
I was going to correct you but Favs used to be a starter and was the backup center... then Udoh... then TB. Why couldn't we have just drafted Bane? Sad face.
Don’t worry. DL is good at finding good people in the second round.
 
It’s kinda startling how much better Mike has been on D this year. I hope it’s not just a contract-year phenomenon. Like, maybe he just got nagged by that hammy for most of last year? And/or some other injury?

We need him at this level all season.
 
It’s kinda startling how much better Mike has been on D this year. I hope it’s not just a contract-year phenomenon. Like, maybe he just got nagged by that hammy for most of last year? And/or some other injury?

We need him at this level all season.
That's kind of who he has been his entire career. Last year, in a new defense, was the outlier.
 
It’s kinda startling how much better Mike has been on D this year. I hope it’s not just a contract-year phenomenon. Like, maybe he just got nagged by that hammy for most of last year? And/or some other injury?

We need him at this level all season.
Yeah. I had expectation of him being an adequate defender last year and I'm not entirely sure what happened. He looked much smaller on the floor, seemed like he was pushed around a lot, targeted, and shot over all the time. I'm not sure I've even seen that once this year. He's handled switches/mismatches fine.
 
I was going to correct you but Favs used to be a starter and was the backup center... then Udoh... then TB. Why couldn't we have just drafted Bane? Sad face.
Or Maledon.

It’s like the Jazz have no interest in the exact types of guards Donovan should ideally be playing with and acquiring.

The Conley thing is going great currently and so is Clarkson. But we don’t know what happens with Conley after this year and there’s no compelling economic argument about the feasibility of keeping him. That’s without considering the contract year or age considerations.

I’m the worst and I monitor both of their game logs most of the time.
 
That's kind of who he has been his entire career. Last year, in a new defense, was the outlier.
There’s also a precedent for someone with his physical profile to fall off a cliff at this age/stage of career. So, those worries were justified. And I think that version of Conley could return before the season is over, too.
 
Or Maledon.

It’s like the Jazz have no interest in the exact types of guards Donovan should ideally be playing with and acquiring.

The Conley thing is going great currently and so is Clarkson. But we don’t know what happens with Conley after this year and there’s no compelling economic argument about the feasibility of keeping him. That’s without considering the contract year or age considerations.

I’m the worst and I monitor both of their game logs most of the time.
And none would get playing time yet, but you'd feel good that they might have a chance at being ready when the time comes. The Udoka pick was dumb at the time and continues to look dumber. Even Xavier Tillman (another guy I loved) gives you the switchy rotation center that could give the defense a change of pace.

The team is so good that I shouldn't complain... just hoping we can find a way to keep the group healthy and together for a solid run. Maybe Oni gets good or we find another diamond to replace what Joe/Mike bring. Favs might need to be shipped off to make the budget work next year... maybe Udoka steps into the backup role then. Just a puzzling string of moves there.
 
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