CitizenofCapua
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So since you hate every first round pick KOC had made, you predicted all of the names above that you put in order would be a better pick (except JV)? WOW you are a basketball genius.
The Gordon Hayward mistake has screwed the Jazz for years to come
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So since you hate every first round pick KOC had made, you predicted all of the names above that you put in order would be a better pick (except JV)? WOW you are a basketball genius.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
Hayward and George were the only two guys available at the time who have done much of anything in the NBA. Sure, George is an all-star. But Hayward is a pretty good all-around player. Look at their stats a bit closer. Paul's are a lot higher because he averages 38 mins per game; Hayward only 27. Do you think Hayward could score a couple more baskets, and get a couple more assists if he were to play an additional 11 mins.? If so, the only stat where George has the clear advantage is rebounding.
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I'd say KOC did a pretty good job in drafting Gordon, especially when the choices - besides George - were Aldrich, Henry, Babbitt, Sanders, Patterson, Davis, etc. And there were quite a few misses in front of the Jazz, such as Aminu, Udoh and Johnson. I won't go through the entire draft, but the Jazz would have been successful taking Hayward, George, Bledsoe or Landry Fields. Perhaps I missed a name or two, but that's not a whole lot of talent for picks 9 through the end of the draft. Kudos to KOC for getting one of the FEW good players where he drafted.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
I guarantee that if you could forecast all those names BEFORE the fact, some NBA team would be paying you a couple million to be their GM. Easy to be an armchair QB. Let's go back and see what other teams also missed on the players you mentioned.
How about mentioning how KOC only liked 2 PG's in the draft and moved up from #6 to #3 to grab Deron instead of staying put and likely taking Felton? How about taking a FA risk on Boozer instead of going with the more established Kenyon Martin?
Tell you what. For the next 3 years, let's track who you pick in the draft for the Jazz and compare against who they actually get. If your picks, overall, are substantially better, I'll give you a prize.
GVC
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JV is ****ing terrible.
MVP
Well-Known Member
I am not saying I wanted all those players before draft - it just that some turned out to be so much better then what Jazz picked that it is kind of sad... I can tell I wanted Boozer, Arenas, Leonard and JV instead of Borchardt, Lopez, Burks and Kanter.
sounds like fun game to play, how about you do it for every jazzfanz poster here? And the one with best "mock" draft wins that prize?
larryselbows
Banned
There were so many other ways to finesse this joke. Thank you Bob Saget.
gregbroncs
Well-Known Member
If Hayward were on that Pacers team he would have been an allstar as well. I'd take Hayward over George. But would not be dissappointed if we had taken George instead.
That would actually be quite fun. I'm in on this too!
gregbroncs
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You missed his point. It's easy to pick who should have been picked after the draft. Picking Hayward before that draft turned out to be brilliant. He could have missed so easily and this board was pissed when they took him. If we had taken the players most people wanted we would be soooo much worse off then we are right now.
MVP
Well-Known Member
No, I did not predicted it. Anytime KOC drafted somebody in first round to me it looked like he left better players available. I used to have high hopes for those picks ( like Humphries, Snyder, Lopez) as they where pimped hardly in local media and then left disappointed as some of them where gone even before their rookie deals were over - isn't that a sure sign of failure or admision of defeat? It is like KOC is saying - look son, we drafted you but since you suck we will trade you after 1-2 years or expose you in expansion draft like they did with Pavlovic. See how many rookies O'Connor drafted in 1 round got their rookie deals extended - Deron is the only one in 10 years of KOC drafting and 10 of them where gone. He did much better in second round though and finding Millsap and M.Wiliams are certainly his best drafts ever.
You know my style better than that. This isn't an opinion. This is pathetic trolling.