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The HELL NO to AK and Fes Thread

cowhide said:
I am done with "bringing in washed up vets to take away minutes from promising rookies" mentality that has been a staple of the Sloan era. It is time to play the best players and move forward instead of holding onto "favorite" jazz players like AK. The goal is about winning and not popularity.
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Great point. And that's one reason I think Corbin was given a guaranteed deal and a vote of confidence by ownership. Corbin has to concentrate on playing the younger guys and it may cost him a few wins initially.
Part of me says let's just go for it. Start Burks and Hayward at the wings. Play Favors and Kanter heavy minutes. I don't care if that means the Jazz only win 20 games next season. That just gives us a chance to get another wing or a replacement for Harris.
 
Depending upon cost, i would keep AK. I assume the following - he'd settle in as an old vet becuase he's not paid 17/yr so expectations would be reasonable. He's intereseted in staying in Utah personally so he'd be satisfied. He would play much less minutes over the whole season with an open understanding that he's not seen as the man.

We need AK, CJ, Milsap, Watson, and even Price to remain with the team for maintaining and teaching Utah Jazz culture. Over the next few years the focus is going to be on growing the players we have not winning. So keeping the right UJ veterans is worth it. I have not mentioned Bell becuase I don't know what his state of mind is. If he came to Utah with the hopes of playing a lot and competing for title, then that has gone. He might have to be traded - but if he was on board, i'd be happy to keep him for a year or two for his mentoring skills.

I would be willing to keep Fes for a price - the reason is for practice. He could be one of the physically tougher players to play against for our new guys to grow up with. While he is a clanking sort of shooter he's athletic enough to be an excellent $1M practice player.
 
by the way i saw AK argue with Masha about where to meet after the game, during a time out late in the game with the Jazz down by two against OKC. dude really hasnt given a ****e about winning since he signed for the max. why would he start tomorrow just cuz he makes less money?
 
GlassEater said:
Great point. And that's one reason I think Corbin was given a guaranteed deal and a vote of confidence by ownership. Corbin has to concentrate on playing the younger guys and it may cost him a few wins initially.
Part of me says let's just go for it. Start Burks and Hayward at the wings. Play Favors and Kanter heavy minutes. I don't care if that means the Jazz only win 20 games next season. That just gives us a chance to get another wing or a replacement for Harris.
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Easy to have this plan and idea when it isnt your money going down the drain as attendance drops and the team loses money from no wins. Yeah, if it wasnt a business, great idea.
 
Gotta see what happens with the new CBA.

IF there's an NBA season (that's a huge if), perhaps we'll only play 50 games. Perhaps a 50 game season could be played before Andrei breaks down?

Perhaps there's a better deal out on the FA market?

Perhaps AK will demand too much money?

I would prefer us to move on. Try out Millsap. Give other players some burn.
 
I think Hayward, Millsap, and Miles can play the position by committee, depending on the matchup. After going back and forth on it, AK shouldn't be brought back.
 
jimmy eat jazz said:
I don't have confidence that AK can play a diminishing role and maintain a strong mental attitude. He has a repeated behavioral pattern, as far as I can tell, of being a whiner. Whiners demand attention and create drama, not what a team developing a core of young players needs. I like AK, but it's time for him to go, regardless of how cheap we might otherwise sign him for.
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Thank you.
 
I think it's pretty fair to have mixed feelings about AK. I'm already tired of losing; we have big question marks at SF; he said he'd give a home-town discount; I'm already tired of losing; he's skilled ....

c'mon.
 
My thinking here as of late is IF Burks shows he can be our #2 PG and SG, I'd keep AK at a reasonable cost over re-signing Watson to be our #2 PG. AK despite his flaws would add greater value to our roster, IMO. Using older vets as our #2 PG has yielded very inconsistant results over the years... Besides, AK is prolly at least as good a passer as Watson, and certainly more versatile as a defender.
As far as Fes goes, without him we got 5 bigs on the roster; 6 if we count Evans as a big. Assuming Okur returns, and all signs indicate he will, drafting Kanter means Fes won't be back...
 
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