The Jazz are trading D-Will to New Jersey!?

[sportsnut1232]

Pretty sure Jazz management knew Deron's feelings and probably had a better idea of the FA market than most of us.

But since some of you want to criticize KOC, lets let you play GM.

So what do we need to become a contender under Deron in the next 2 years? Lets forget the probable lockout and the new (stricter) salary cap.

Play GM geniuses, since it's so easy to bash KOC.

Who do we get?

Dwight Howard? Think he'll come to Utah?

K, so we need a SG since Raja sucks and CJ is inconsistent. Who we gonna get? Rip Hamilton? Seriously? Is he what puts us over the top? Dwade? Think Miami will give him away for a future 2nd rounder?

Is Millsap really the PF that will win us a championship?

Is Memo ever coming back?

Oh wait, is Fess going to somehow become Shaq?

K, so who else folks. I'm all ears!

What did you want KOC to do? Because all I've read is.... "we need a SG... We need a longer/taller PF.... We need a backup point.... We need a gooder SF...."

Yet, hardly anyone offers specifics. And the specifics that are offered are either completely ridiculous (like us getting a bunch of allstars for AKs expiring) or not nearly enough (like rip or troy murphy or some of the other trades that have been suggested).

So please, by all means, bash KOC. But until you have offered any realistic alternatives to bringing the Jazz to a contender status with Deron in the next 2 years, then shut up.

This. We had virtually no chance to become a contender in the next 2 years and that is the only way we would have kept Deron. Funny how just a month agoo everyone was yelling "we need change" and when we finally get it, people complain about it. It was time to start over and we sped up the rebuilding process.

 

[fairweather]

LOL! We needed change! The Jazz had a sprained wrist, so GM and KOC cut off its arm!

 

[m3at]

lol! We needed change! The jazz had a sprained wrist, so gm and koc cut off its arm!

ftmfw

 

[jope]

rebuilding could eventually be good thing for this team. i will not lie though, losing deron without a warning stings. he helped me transition from casually watching the jazz to the rabid jazz fan i am today. i give him all of the credit for that, he was an exciting spark in a rudimentary-same-every-year system. once malone ditched us and stock threw in the towel i couldn't see myself being more than a casual fan but deron helped me get back into it, and i appreciate him for that and will be a fan throughout his career.

that said, i hope to see the next malone with this kid, and i hope to see another trade, because through all of this, we still havent addressed the issues we have been suffering through all along.... wing and center.... im worried they have too much invested in a weak draft class and an unknown rookie, id rather trade for a proven commodity.

 

[devin_c]

Hopefully by the end of next year Williams is traded to Chicago for Rose and then I can root for my team again.

 

[fairweather]

Hopefully by the end of next year Williams is traded to Chicago for Rose and then I can root for my team again.

Now that would be funny.

 

[NCJazz]

LOL! We needed change! The Jazz had a sprained wrist, so GM and KOC cut off its arm!

It was oozing with a ***** infection as well so in order to insure the future it had to be cut off.

 

[mellow]

Does anybody else snicker a little bit whenever they think of Deron playing for Avery Johnson? There's poetic justice for ya'.

Absolutely. The best was hearing Coach Chiesea say that Avery Johnson is especially hard on his pgs and demands they play defense.

Jerry Sloan had to have a private laugh about that too.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I don't know that, and neither do you. One of things I used to like about the Jazz organization is that they give players the benefit of a doubt. A year and a half was plenty of time to work something out and the franchise has let us all down with poor management.

Which is why you shouldn't rely on your OWN information.

If you admit that you don't know ****, then why are you bashing KOC?

Think KOC just work up one day and decided that "gee, I'm bored. I think I'm gonna pull a trade out of my *** and trade away our best player!"

The Jazz have been thinking about this issue for a long time. This conservative organization doesn't have the mood swings that Cuban or Al Davis have. They knew things that you and I didn't.

They made this trade because they truly felt Deron wasn't coming back. Pretty sure KOC and Greg know a lil more about their own players than we do. Wild concept, I know

 

[Deleted member 365]

Yeah, and trading our best asset 1.5 years before his contract is up in a VERY risky deal will definitely get us to a championship faster. You're pathetic.

This post isn't even worth replying to. Please, offer something fresh instead of the constant whine. Your pathetic points have already been refuted many many many times.

 

[Deleted member 365]

The question is too open-ended (and silly). I know it is difficult to get star players in Utah and that's what proves MY point. When you have one, you don't let him go unless you get another in return. No one here is privy to all the information KOC has. IMO, we've let several players go that we shouldn't have. DWill is just the worst blunder of all.

We got star players in return.

Devin Harris is an allstar, just like Deron.

Favors was the #3 draft pick from this years draft. Deron was a #3 draft pick as well.

We then got 2 more draft picks.

NJ is now going to be held hostage to Deron. What's stopping him from leaving them and going to Dallas?

The Jazz have done extremely well. 4 lotto picks for 1. All while saving money. Deron wasn't leading us anywhere, other than the lottery.

 

[Marty McFly]

This post isn't even worth replying to. Please, offer something fresh instead of the constant whine. Your pathetic points have already been refuted many many many times.

What are you talking about? Your whole point is that the Jazz didn't have the assets or options to put stars around Deron that he needed to win a 'ship, and because of this, he was going to leave. Right?

Now we have ZERO stars, and ZERO options for acquiring one. No, Harris isn't a star. He had ONE good season when he was playing with the Dallas - a nearly 70 win team with tons of great scorers on it. Today, he's not even close to a one armed D-Will. Favors hasn't shown signs of being anything. We have no idea. We have NO idea. And if he is something special, are you just going to support management trading him away before his next big contract because he may not want to stay here? We have NO way to pick up a star now unless it's signing one in free agency next year, which we could have done with D-Will still on the team.

Odds are that both of those picks turn into nothing too. We got bamboozled. It took me a day to realize it, but this trade sucks.